Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[MenofFather]

If is transformer  with two secondaries like in picture, then one secondary then conected, then input power is small almost same, because magnetic flux go toother pach, but then we short other secondary, then bulb light in full brightness and input current go up.
Now if we put instead primary permanent magnet and on one secondary put load and magnetic flux go to pach there no load,then small, wery small power consuming motor rotates and shorts other secondary, then magnetic flux go from magnet to pach were not shorted secondary, with load, and using small energy possible change magnetic flax, there it go. Like VTA, using small power controling we big power, were it go.

[forest]

 I was sure it can't work with resistors. Could it be so simple : resistors on commutator picture are representing coils of device. On one side for example all coils are in series , all powered then on the other only one is powered , connection changed fluently. I wonder how would that change the magnetic field....
For me construction of commutator indicate such possibility : on one side all coils are connected in series, that's why one side commutator connections are all tighed together, on other side coils are connected in sequence to alos become all in series finally and then commutator switch direction.
I can't draw it but I have feeling this is close to the solution. Sure, opposite poles are working as hanon described, in original Figuera patent it would be very simply flat large electromagnets on both side of flat pancake coils.
I may be wrong about connection of coils , maybe they are in parallel but the whole idea presents for me a real deal ! It must work and it is simple.


btw there are 3 ways to keep Columbus egg in vertical position, one of them is destructive and doesn't count here, the second one is rotation , also not related so the final one is what Figuera used




For me case is (almost) closed. The only problem is to figure out commutator connection or replacement.

[forest]

btw the reason for make before break is to avoid large flyback spike taking out energy and destroying device, because current flow all around and returning back, today we can do it also with make &break or Tesla way going to HV, but dangers are still here.
Enough from me...

[dieter]

Hannon
  you will still need resisters to provide a small forward voltage to the inducer coils/magnets to prevent the field from the one which is "on" from totally backfeeding

"backfeeding"? Pls explain.

the one which is off.Once one magnets field swallows up the other two and all three coils become oriented the same,

I have to throw in my veto here. This happens only when they are arranged with like poles. So with like poles you have to provide energy to prim 2 only to force prim 1 not to go trough prim 2, but trough sec only. Wasteful IMHO. Additionally, with like poles, how is the polarity supposed to chanche in the sec? Which is required for at least some efficiency.


With unlike poles on the other hand, the collapsing field of sec 2 will result in a like-pole back-emf indused pulse, that forces prim 1 trough the sec. By practical tests it turned out to be most effective. I have also made tests with like poles and a pancake in between, it was very dissapointing, no voltage or any microamps. Blogged somewhere near page ~ 53 i think.

the time involved to switch back all three and the amount of current will be excessive as well. The collapsing magnetic field will have a high spike short duration ...

As far as my observation goes, a sine signal causes a soft back emf, less spikey, more like a mirror image.


Menofather,


interesting drawing, I will think about it.


NRamaswami,


please see my comment to Doug. Resistors (no coil or cap based resistors, but simple heat dissipation resistors) should be prevented wherever high power flows, they are the opposite of OU, just waste of energy. They may be useful in signal processing. Or as lightbulbs...


If you really want to drive your prims with DC pulses, you can think about the use of diodes to prevent the back EMF to have an unwanted effect. But normally, the back EMF is in resonance and polarity with the next fwd wave and therefor adds to it.


Maybe the secret of Figuera's design is, that the back MMF (not to be confused with the collapsing field pulse) has an easier path trough to prim that is currently occupied by a back EMF pulse only than trough its source which is the active prim .


Forest


You didn't explain the third way to make columbus'egg stand... So??


Regards

[dieter]

Two more things that I wanted to say.


First of all, several times I said (V*V)/ohms=watt. I had this from a socalled ohms law wheel, a circle with several formulas, such as w/a=v, v*a=w, etc. etc. I though this is all true since I had it from an engineering page.


Now it turns out to be crap. Why? I have a 25Watt, 230Vac lightbulb and it has about 200 Ohms dc resistance. So, (230v*230v)/200ohm= 264 watts...


So I apologize for posting nonsense, I did what many people do, I just repeated the things that some "obviously skilled" engineer said and most likely he also just repeated it. Lesson learned: question everything, verify everything personally.


The other thing is, what this whole Back EMF and Back MMF business all about? Isn't this the same?


No!


When you put DC current trough a coil, it creates a magnetical field. This magnetical field will induce a current into the secondary coil that's on the same core. It's inducing only when the field chanches, which means in AC always. Now, as soon as it has induced a current in the sec and we allow this current to flow, by means of logic this will cause a magnetical field in the core that opposes the one coming from the primary. This is the Back MMF or Back magnetomotive force, which is present at any time the current flows trough the sec. This bmmf is causing the prim to get "in phase" and start dissipating energy at all. We have to deal with it, probably like Thane Heins did.


The Back EMF on the other hand,  a term often used for the pulse caused by a collapsing field is the reverse polarity pulse in the electrical circuit of the coil that appears when the DC supply of a coil is turned off. Of cource, it also causes a magnetical field or pulse. It is the stored energy of the coil, just like the stored energy in a cap. Unlike the bmmf, the bemf does not appear when the voltage rises in the ac wave. the bmmf appears whenever there is a change in the sec current flow, the bemf is more of a rubberband that snaps back when released.


So I hope I made clear and proofed that bemf and bmmf are not the same. And that we have to deal with both of them.


Regards



BTW. for all those who are still having problems to understand why 2 coils bring a current 90° out of phase:
The inducer causes the magnetical field immediately, but the induced will only be induced when there is a change in the magnetical field. In a AC sine wave, there is most magnetical change when the inducer passes the zero volt line, and least change when it reaches the top voltage (both, positive and negative). This is why the induced will be in a 90° degree (or 25%) delay to the primary. I know this is basic stuff, but often not understood, esp. the part about the inducer acting immediately, but only the induced being delayed.