Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[bajac]

Hi

Here's a short video by me with some ideas about the Figuera patent.  I think that the flux was directed through either an air gap or solid block, and the pickup wires were contained within then.  The main flux could be either from an electro-magnet or  a permanent magnet, and that flux is shifted by a secondary electro-magnet which may form part of a tank circuit.  Anyway, that's my thoughts for what they are worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZCGjQI3Dw&feature=youtu.be

Rds

John

John,


I don't think I have never seen a device like that. Please, let me know how the test goes.


However, I may have to watch it again. I was not able to stop laughing the first time your dog started howling. I was wondering if you forgot to feed it or to take it outside for a walk.


It sounded like a nice dog, though!

[antijon]

Hanon, I understand what you mean, but I don't think it will work that way.

Remember that the wire isn't attracted to either pole, it just wants to move perpendicular to the field. See this: http://www.tpub.com/neets/book5/15d.htm for an explanation of armature reaction. In the image, the generated current causes the magnetic field to compress directly ahead of the wire. This is the reason the wire feels resistance to turn.

I can think of only two ways to reduce the armature reaction of a wire, or ironless rotor. 1. Shape the wire to reduce the magnetic field ahead of the wire, or drastically reduce the wire's self inductance. Or 2. Possible but not practical, pulse the generator with an opposing current. This would cause the windings to behave like a motor.

I really haven't studied Figuera's rotating generator, but if it's an ironless core generator it would have little drag. Armature reaction on a naked wire is like farting into the wind- hardly noticeable.

[hanon]

Hannon
That is only a part of it which is very important in itself. It will not get it to work on its own. The intensity of the magnetic fields produced by the inducers have to be extreamly strong with a minimum of expended current. ie a better magnet. There is another oddity to his drawing in the patent of the motionless unit. The lines which everyone thinks are conductive leads are not leads at all. They show one half of the system running off the source, the N inducers and the other half running off the feed back from the output. It would be like drawing a circle around the respective halves one run off of outside gen and the other off the comutated resistance which also more of abstract notion then a model in the physical sense. Remove the lines going from the different parts to the other parts and start counting up parts and tell me there is not seven coils N seven coils S and seven possible resister connections but 14 commutator segments. The resister contraption is only there to show the device is resistance controlled but it does not exist in the sense of the drawing as a real physical part of the construction. The magnets them selves control the fluctuation and everything ells including rectification.

I can not grasp your proposal Doug. You are telling that the wires are not real wires and the resistor is not really used. Are you proposing that Figuera instead of a variable resistor used just a couple of electromagnets with 7 intermediate taps? Of course as B =Turns·Current  (N·I) then if you change the number of turns sequentially then you are modifiying the magnetic field. This appeared in the forum around may or june and it is a good idea.

What about your interpretation that half elements are fed from the source and the other half from the feedback ? Which feedback ? I don´t understand it.  Could you provide a rough sketch or a picture of a handwritting drawing? Thanks

[forest]

Maybe there is no resistors, just armature coils attached to commutator ?

[antijon]

Hi John, I had some questions for ya. I had to watch your video a few times to really get what you're thinking. It's a great idea. I can't believe you drilled holes into the core, that's ingenious.

About your working device, first, you're only using the conductors in one direction, right? So as the field is diverted, then back again, it cuts the wires. Have you ever tried just using AC on your "stator" coil? I'm really curious as to the results. Is an increasing flux that traverses the wires, the same thing as a flux whose lines move and cut the wires? See what I mean. I think there's probably a large difference.

Anyway, I had an idea from your demo. Since your device is practically identical to a DC generator, minus rotation, there should be a way to use both sides of the conductor. So in the image, I used "compensating windings". If a current is applied, the windings should divert the flux that crosses the induced windings. The red and blue indicates conductors and different current directions. The green indicates the flux.