Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[bajac]

So what are you insinuating Mr. Bajac?
Which configuration works?
N>>S or N>>N?

I do not know what works or what doesn't. That is the purpose of this forum, to find the answer to the million dollar question.

All I am saying is that the patent is clear about the polarity of the inducing coils. Stating that whatever is shown in the patent is not the real thing, and that Figuera wanted to hide the true invention, is a personal opinion or interpretation which we have not proven at this point.

It kind of surprises me how people rush into conclusions that are not supported in the patent. Statements such as "the sketch on a patent is not important" or "the key to the invention is in the claims" indicates a lack of knowledge on how patents are drafted. I am not implying that others interpretations outside the patent are not valid. What I want to say is that you should know the difference between an interpretation and a (fact) statement coming from the Figuera's patent application. Stating that Figuera's 1908 patent teaches the magnetic polarity of the inducing coils as NN or SS is plain wrong. IT IS A PERSONAL INTERPRETATION!!!

The patent sketches are so important that if you wish, you can submit your first temporary application based on sketches only. No words. And if the description contradicts whatever is shown on the sketches, it is the duty of the patent examiner to object and not allow this patent until the errors are corrected. On the other hand, the claims are useless or meaningless for determining what the patent is about. When I perform a prior art search, I do not bother on reading the claims. All I look for is the speciation part of the patent, that is, the sketches and the description sections.

Notice that Figuera's document is not an awarded patent but a patent application. This document contains claims that would have never been allowed in a final awarded patent because (even in 1908) still they were reading on prior art from the 1800s. That is why I once said that Figuera's patent application was very lousy and drafted by a very bad patent lower.

[NRamaswami]

Bajac:

Purpose of patent drafting is to give information and not to give information at the same time. Patent of 1908 claims patent for Principle itself and that would not be allowed. Drafting might have been deliberately intended to confuse and in that BuForn has done a good job.   

The device as disclosed in the drawings work only if NS-NS-NS is the configuration. If we use identical poles like NS-NS-SN then the voltage that comes is about 4 volts. No amperage. I have tested number of times.

The identical pole configuration works but that requires a different geometry  for Primaries and secondary and that is not shown in Figueras Patent. His 1902 Patent is quite clear that the opposite pole faces should be used so that the maximum attractive force could be utilised in the secondary. I think this has been tested by many now and so there is no million dollar question here.

[hanon]

Hi Hanon.
what is your site?
Tank you!

Wistiti, You may find my website clicking in the Globe Sketch which is located under my nickname in the posts.


Here I post the only sentence where Figuera defined the system in the 1908 patent. Later Buforn did the same in his 5 patents. Never mentioned North or South!!.  Strange, isn´t it? . Please read it thinking you are a lawyer who has to defend a certain arragement of electromagnets. Take your own conclusions.


Bye bye

[massive]

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23 april 1902 newspaper  article

"that the invention of electrical generator is not only mine , but that has been made in collaboration between me and the young and illustrated electrician Mr Pedro Blasberg in which I am associated to , as it relates to the technical part of the invention"

"SF has constructed a ROUGH apparatus by which in spite of its small size and defects , he  obtains a current of 550v which he utilise in his house for lighting purposes and driving a motor of 20 hp "

[marathonman]

RSI, i see Doug is right your still trying to make a transformer into a generator. HILARIOUS. !

research part G in the time frame of Figuera and you will see they used Magnetic fields to control currant.
i guess it is to much for the brain to handle that currant through a coil with a iron or silicon iron core has reluctance, resistance to currant flow. not to mention the rotating field inside Part G's core but that is another story in it's self.