Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[hanon]

Where are those gaps in the Buforn patent from 1914?

That without mentioning that this piled setup in the 1914 invalidates your theory of the spliiter transformer. Please read the patent!!

Am I the only one thinking that those spaces drawn in the 1908 patent sketch are just to demarcate clearly the edges of each coil?  They are not even mentioned in the patent text.

This is not convince you. It is just to convince people to replicate what the patent says. Bye

[NRamaswami]

Hanon, Bajac, Marathonman and all other Friends from Spain

A personal request.

This patent document of Figuera appers to me to be fake.

Why?

Please see this attachment.

The spanish patent office does not have any application in its records filed by any Clemente Figuera or Clemente Figueras.

How did Hanon get these supposedly old patents?

As Bajac points out the Patent is some thing that cannot be worked. The commutator design provided by Marathonman is valid but the wikipedia page on that tells clearly that the disadvantage is that the carbon brush will wear out and needed frequent replacement. So how come the patent says that once the machine is started it will continue to run indefinitely.

Apart from some claimed old Newspaper Articles is there any solid proof that these claimed patents are not fake?

Please do the search yourself in the European Patent Database and I went to the Spanish Patent office website and searched. Look at the attachment.

Can any other spanish friend visit the Spanish Patent office and ask for copies. Please do not tell me that records are not available. Older records than that are available in European Patent Database and that is the largest repository of Patent documents.

Please check and advise. Bajac I think you can verify. Please do it.

[hanon]

This patent document of Figuera appers to me to be fake.

Why?

Please see this attachment.

The spanish patent office does not have any application in its records filed by any Clemente Figuera or Clemente Figueras.

How did Hanon get these supposedly old patents?

Come on!!!  You may just have asked me and I would have given you the link before stating those strong and false statements against myself. This is not fair play

Here go how to find it:


http://consultas2.oepm.es/InvenesWeb/faces/busquedaInternet.jsp

In the field "Numero de Solicitud"   write     P0044267

Huala!!!  The patent appears!!! Magic.!!!

Please delete all those false statements against me.

If you may view the original copy you just have to move your ass toward the patent office. Ask for an appointment and visit the patent archives, as I did twice, in 2012 and in 2013

I will take soon a long vacations from this infested forum. I see too many people trying to dinamite this project. I see some interests in some people to hide the real design of this device for some reason I may guess.

All important info is in my website. You will find it there. This thread is full of garbage

[marathonman]

AND their you go again taking the drawing literally. ITS JUST A DRAWING TO GET THE POINT ACROSS.

FIguera was more secretive then Buforn was. it was the only patent pic that was missing the core drawn in, trust me the cores are their just not drawn in the pic. i have studied all patent for two years and trust me they are their with NO gap. maybe a small gap between the coils but not on the core.
but what ever floats your boat go for it, it's only money.


Hanon; you are totally correct.

[bajac]

Hanon, Bajac, Marathonman and all other Friends from Spain

A personal request.

This patent document of Figuera appers to me to be fake.

Why?

Please see this attachment.

The spanish patent office does not have any application in its records filed by any Clemente Figuera or Clemente Figueras.

How did Hanon get these supposedly old patents?

As Bajac points out the Patent is some thing that cannot be worked. The commutator design provided by Marathonman is valid but the wikipedia page on that tells clearly that the disadvantage is that the carbon brush will wear out and needed frequent replacement. So how come the patent says that once the machine is started it will continue to run indefinitely.

Apart from some claimed old Newspaper Articles is there any solid proof that these claimed patents are not fake?

Please do the search yourself in the European Patent Database and I went to the Spanish Patent office website and searched. Look at the attachment.

Can any other spanish friend visit the Spanish Patent office and ask for copies. Please do not tell me that records are not available. Older records than that are available in European Patent Database and that is the largest repository of Patent documents.

Please check and advise. Bajac I think you can verify. Please do it.

NR,

I trust 100% the rescuing work done by Hanon and alpoma. There is not reason to think there is something fishing going on with the documents.

All of these issues are the results of the lack of expertise of the Spanish patent lawyer, the Spanish patent examiner, and the Spanish patent office at the time the documents were submitted. The low quality of the work performed by the three subjects above indicates a poor professionalism on the practice of the patent discipline at the time. Anyone can see the difference on the quality of an European or American patent and this patent. I do not think the patents were altered but it is a result of bad practice at all levels.

The only patent that I have found to have a strong indication of tampering with is the patent awarded to Daniel McFarland Cook in 1871(?). In the description of the patent there is reference to a figure having a circuit 'D' but it is not found in the patent document.

On the other hand, stating that a sketch shows air gaps in the magnetic circuit just to make something more visible is a statement of a person who does not really understand how the performance of a magnetic circuit is affected by a discontinuity of the iron core, no matter how small this discontinuity is. Do you think that Figuera was that stupid?