Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[hanon]

Hello NoMoreSlave,

Let Ramaswami finish his tests and show the results. I think he is quite transparent: he has posted all the details required to built his design. I have not seen many users doing the same here. If he is sucessful we will have the right path to follow. He is just saying that he just talk about facts and results that he got with his previous device. He is not hurting anyone. I think he is helping a lot to keep people interested and testing other configurations.

About his patent, I don´t see any problem in filling a patent. Tesla filed hundred of patents !!!!!  If he had not filed those patent then Westinghouse had not invested in his AC system. Now we will just have the limited DC system by Edison. Patents are sometimes a good way to spread a technology.

Also Figuera, my hero, filed some patents. And now we have that knowledge because it was written in some patents.

You can file a patent to get some profit of your work and at the same time that you release open public a full detailed description....as TESLA did.  His patent were some detailed , with no hidden parts, that he give them to the world at the same time that he got some money to keep on researching.

Ramaswami, good luck with your tests, we all hope with great expectation !!!

NoMoreSlave, your sketch is fine . It is the concept used by Figuera :a variable magnetic field . Now we need to know how to implement it !!! This is the key.


Best regards

[gyulasun]

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could you please make any comment on the theoretical aspect of what I posted I the last picture?
I will very appreciated.
Thanks!
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Hi NoMoreSlave,

The concepts of the conventional and the Figuera generator setups are nicely shown in the drawings you uploaded here:
http://www.overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/720/
I agree with the changing cross section area for the conventional generator and the changing magnetic field of the AC electromagnets in the Figuera setup.

I have to notice that in a conventional transformator the coils are also fixed and the magnetic flux density also changes as the input AC current alternates. So I wonder what makes the Figuera setup to produce more input with respect to its input power? Could you expand your understanding on it?

(Mr Ramaswami already mentioned why this setup is Lenz-less but I would like to read your take on this if you do not mind.)

Thanks,  Gyula

[hanon]

Hi Ramaswami,

Could you please comment to the forum what you mean by stating that current generators just use the forces of magnetic repulsion while Figuera´s generator uses both the forces of magnetic atraction and magnetic repulsion?

Could you elaborate a bit deeper this idea? Maybe with a kind of example, if possible.

Thanks. I really appreciate your good attitude sharing your design. Go ahead!!

[Marsing]

NRamaswami, 

i am just afraid that you have confusion about week,month and years,
as you have confusion about amperage,voltage and watts......
btw, hanon have a good question, can you provide the answer for that?

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thanks

[vineet_kiran]

I have to notice that in a conventional transformator the coils are also fixed and the magnetic flux density also changes as the input AC current alternates. So I wonder what makes the Figuera setup to produce more input with respect to its input power? Could you expand your understanding on it?

When core is through (ie.,single) the fluxes produced  by primary and secondary repel each other because both fluxes are produced within 'one system'.   When air gap is introduced between primary and secondary cores, it becomes  'action at a distance'  hence fluxes produced by primary and secondary attract each other.  If you compare between working principle of a transformer and a generator you can easily make out the difference.

But I am afraid when you make fluxes additive in a transformer you may not get output from secondary at all.  Because it becomes like a transformer on no-load where fluxes produced by primary is neutralised by fluxes produced by the core hence transformer on no-load doesnot consume any power (other than losses) eventhough it is connected to mains and current will be flowing through it.  To take power out of transformer, the flux produced by primary has to be repelled by the flux produced by secondary which happens only when you apply load on secondary. (without air gap between primary and secondary).

This is only my view of the situation.  Others may have different thoughts.
   
Anyway you may come out with something else while conducting experiments.  Wish everyone good luck.