New lifter design in progress

[rlm555339]

I will be using multiple technologies. My model craft will be hollow and will use helium to counter the weight of the craft and the power sources.
SOj

This is way out of my field of knowledge so keep that in mind when you read......
If you used light weight tubing (like that found in TV antennae)  and filled it with helium, would there be enough volume to displace the weight of the tubing?  You might end up with a craft that never comes down.   

[Sojourner]

A cubic foot of helium will lift about 28.2 grams of weight. The tricky part fo me is making a sleek craft with the highest manueverability possible. We don't want it to be merely a glorified blimp.

Unfortunately I am in the middle of relocating to another town and am in the midst of all sorts of stuff and these projects are on hold for a while.

Soj

I will be using multiple technologies. My model craft will be hollow and will use helium to counter the weight of the craft and the power sources.
SOj

This is way out of my field of knowledge so keep that in mind when you read......
If you used light weight tubing (like that found in TV antennae)  and filled it with helium, would there be enough volume to displace the weight of the tubing?  You might end up with a craft that never comes down.   

[raburgeson]

That sounds great , I was thinking of a nonarerodynamic shape with
three square pods set in a triangular arrangement, with the pod and
power on a plane below those in the center. That way the wieght
would stabilize the craft. Center of gravity would be low and the rider
would be below the reaction between the cathode and anode. I
really have hopes of turning a generator first before I think about
that type of thing though.

[Doctor No]

Maybe we can mix technologies , I hear gyros can lighten loads. I have a problem with stability and it may help.
Think you are right about the voltage I remember reading T T brown was going to produce a large disk I
believe it was 10 foot and 100kv if I'm wrong it would be 300kv. Think it was in the book "In Search of
Zero Point Energy". I read so much anymore I can"t be sure exactly were it came from for sure. If you haven't
read this book yet your in for a treat. Have you tried setting the skirts about 22.5 Degrees to create side thrust?
Hex shape  should work for this idea well.Tried to help with coil subject.

Have You tried with an ice? (to put thin sheet of ice around main "engine")
Later You can try to freeze it with gas.
For serious effects, you will probably have to put all in a fridge with opened down hatch.

[TinselKoala]

Ha ha, old thread, but OK, even here I have some input.
If you want more thrust and lifting capacity from your standard "lifter", use pinking shears to serrate the bottom edges of the foil skirts. Make several passes with the shears, overlapping the point spacing, so you get a bunch of little points pointing down from the bottom edge of the foil. Your current draw will go up some, but the lifter will perform better and will lift more load.

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Like that.