9/11 truth movement topic

[Dingus Mungus]

EVERYONE READ UP ON RON PAUL!!!

Americas last chance! He said on Alex Jones he favored a new investigation that answered the unanswered questions, but doesn't believe the government as whole was involved. He believes the federal reserve is raping your cash values. He believes the IRS is unconstitutional. He believes federal laws are unconstiturional and wishes to reliquish power back to the states.

Please, if you're of age and voting in the next election, then vote Ron Paul. You will be amazed at what he can accomplish for us as a whole. Returning value to the dollar, and promoting personal liberty in America like we have never seen before.

~Dingus Mungus

[HopeForHumanity]

I was thinking about someday starting a anti Oregon police state walk. It would be wise to start in sub urban areas. I don't like to admit it, but it seems violence will be the answere in the end. It is our right and responsiblity to fight for freedom in anyway nessacary. Maybe violence won't be reached in the end, but from what I observe, people simply can't understand our disgusting system. For now it will start on the internet. I am young, but I am learning perl and c++. I am starting to understand the internet and computers in a much deeper way than most people. I am planning a chat client that will use a custom encryption system, be open source, and give people a way to communicate without feeling their privacy is being violated.

[ring_theory]

This is good info
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

Sure international banking owns america. However what brought us to this point is the Unions and we are cheap and import the cheap crap. Totally disregarding the fact that we should export ALOT MORE. The union is jacking up production costs and gives the worker little or no incentive to work harder or produce more. Manufacturers should present and i wholly support "piece work" getting paid by the piece really does inspire employee's and gives them a definate incentive to produce more. Currently the high cost of production is directly reflecting on the final cost. The increased cost is not very appealing to the worlds market.

The real money is spread among many clearinghouses funded by donations. Available to those entities that meet certain criteria as to qualify for funding. Human services is largely funded by these clearinghouses.

But really what is the alternative? I got it! The barter system! Oh that'll set us back a few centuries. I better get to fixing the hog barn and turn the corn crib into a hen house. I feel a depression coming on.   

[JNeko]

Hi Dingus!

Looking again at http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

"6. How could the WTC towers collapse in only 11 seconds (WTC 1) and 9 seconds (WTC 2)?speeds that approximate that of a ball dropped from similar height in a vacuum (with no air resistance)?

In other words, the momentum (which equals mass times velocity) of the 12 to 28 stories (WTC 1 and WTC 2, respectively) falling on the supporting structure below (which was designed to support only the static weight of the floors above and not any dynamic effects due to the downward momentum) so greatly exceeded the strength capacity of the structure below that it (the structure below) was unable to stop or even to slow the falling mass. The downward momentum felt by each successive lower floor was even larger due to the increasing mass.

From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse. Neither the duration of the seismic records nor video evidence (due to obstruction of view caused by debris clouds) is reliable indicators of the total time it took for each building to collapse completely."

This seems to be NIST's explanation on how the twin towers fell as fast as they did. Why could the WTC 7 not do the same?

Also, have you seen this: http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm ?
This guy says the WTC 7 received a lot more structural damage than the conspirators make it out to be. What are your comments on his pictures? And on the whole article regarding WTC 7 in general?

Thanks!

J

[JNeko]

Hi again Dingus! A quick follow-up question:

under section 13 in
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

"....Under certain circumstances it is conceivable for some of the steel in the wreckage to have melted after the buildings collapsed. Any molten steel in the wreckage was more likely due to the high temperature resulting from long exposure to combustion within the pile than to short exposure to fires or explosions while the buildings were standing.  "

What is your response to this? Is this sufficient enough for you in regards to explaining the molten steel findings? Just curious.

J