9/11 truth movement topic

[pese]

http://erroneousbusczh.homestead.com/9-11Plot.html

[archon79]

For those sceptical of government involvement in the 9/11 attacks consider the following facts -

WTC 7, a 47 floor building collapsed only 5 hours after the twin towers. Initially the blame was put on falling debris and fires from the other buildings, but since so much tv footage showed a perfect controlled demolition the powers that be must have decided it was too blatant. They had Silverstein come on tv in that famous footage and admit they "pulled" the building.

THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE

If you know anything about controlled demolitions, you would know it takes weeks to set up, especially with a large 47 floor building. The plans for the building have to be found, holes have to be drilled, compartments have to be opened up to expose the frame structure, explosives placed at key points on every level e.t.c

And they will have you believe that all this was done in 5 hours?

Even if a professional demolition company had all the tons of explosives, the plans ready, and 100 men on standby it would be next to impossible to pull it off in only 5 hours.
Yet the government would have you believe that in the chaos of 9/11, with all those dead firefighters, police and civilians, that they were able to achieve this?

The timeline and facts of WTC 7 are indisputable proof of the official 9/11 story being a fraud.


Having said that we do need to be wary as there is a lot of disinformation out there that is designed to make the 9/11 truth movement look foolish. Such things as the hologram/no plane theory. Even the Pentagon cruise missle theory is suspect - if you dig deeper you will find a lot of the pictures released such as the jet turbine may have been staged, and at some later point the real footage of the plane crashing will be released designed to discredit the whole 9/11 truth movement.

And as for Alex Jones - he is probably the single greatest warrior we have fighting against government sponsored terror and the new world order. Check out his films

Terrorstorm
Martial Law - Rise of the police state
9/11 - The Road to Tyranny

All his films are available on google, youtube or the torrents for free viewing. His films are way better than Loose Change. The latest one 'Terrorstorm' has gotten into the google top 10 about a dozen times and its view rating counter has been reset to zero a dozen times. I am not kidding we have screen captures of this, the cia planted censors must be hard at work over in google land.

[buzneg]

Math of the Fall speed of the buildings

I don't know how to do the math, but say we ignor the support structure of the buildings, because they can be argued by debunkers, and only focus on the Mass fall speed. Meaning take, in a simple mathematical model, say 5 1kg balls and have them not be supported by anything, just start falling when the "above" one comes in contact with the "lower" ones. If this proves that it should have fallen slower, or even at the same speed, it would be a great and simple explaination to "forum serfers."

I will post diagrams on forums and argue it out if somone can do the math. The only possible problem is, does the fall of 5 balls of 1kg differ from the fall speed of 5 balls of 10 tonnes, in a "too ratio" comparision?

[archon79]

The fall speed of the twin towers is a good point to bring up. Engineering estimates of collapse time are from 50 to 80 seconds if the floors really did collapse pancake style.
But as we all saw, it only took about 10 seconds for a 110 level building to come down at freefall speed.
This is just another piece of evidence that shows demolitions (thermite cutting charges)were used to weaken the central beams.

[911PNACplot]

Hello everyone,
I am the author of the 9/11=PNAC Plot page,
also known as
http://erroneousbusczh.homestead.com/9-11Plot.html,
which PESE just posted for you to look over.
I've spent years compiling the images and the links and have currently 757 stories which are numbered for easy reference, and a whole bunch of images.
The problem with the work of building this page has been that I've had to read everything first. Consequently I'm now a 9/11 addict, and am trying to find a 911aholics anonymous or any other rehad center specializing in recovery from too much 9/11. ( just kidding )
I've taken to writing in the occassional blog, but have learned some shocking things.
For instance there is one out there that's festering with argumentative wise guys.
Several are pretty competitive and I usually end up annoyed at having gone back to see if I need to reply because a wise ass has some trip he wants to shove onto everyone else.
I just joined this blog because I really like the tone of your interactions and will gladly field any questions you might have as yet unanswered. There is still a way to go so don't give up, and for reference, trust me, you can't find a better resource than my page.
Rev. Michael V. Goldsun
San Francisco
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