9/11 truth movement topic

[ring_theory]

Long thread. Not sure if these were mentioned before, but here are a couple of pics from the wtc right after the collapse, and some info on video tapes covering the pentagon incident.

Some interesting evidence, thermite residue? or?


Note the above pic is at street level


It looks like a clear 45 deg cut on one of the huge main support columns needed to facilitate collapse? It would indicate intense localized heat, look at the molten steel residue and the cut. Basically straight lines at 45 deg angle while the rest of the column is basically intact. 

Also bombs alert as recorded by the firefighters:
Fireman: ?bomb in the building start clearing out?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11%20bomb

Draw your own conclusions...



Another interesting subtopic, is the great number of video tapes (80+)? that were covering the pentagon incident. Also keep in mind that the Virginia DOT right across the street is/was covering the area 24/7. Not to mention the many tapes from reporters and hotel cameras near by, seized immediately after the incident and not released after so many years.

"government's denial to FOIA request for the 85 video recordings related to flight 77"
http://www.flight77.info/00new/n85reply.jpg
http://www.flight77.info/documents.htm

If the tapes show flight 77 hitting the building, it would only strengthen the govt?s position. Why not disclose it after so many years? What?s there to hide anymore?

Anyway, these subjects of discussion can get heated and polarize many people.
Hopefully, and eventually the details will come out, however it may happen at a time where it most likely will not matter anymore?

Ok back to researching physics and OU developments

Which of the WTC is this? I'll tell you now that that is no cut using a gas axe. there wouldn't be that much molten as the axe would blow most of it from the object bieng cut. the molten ripples on the left side appear to be in a V form. this would be nearly impossible to do with a gas axe unless it was also cut from the inside. otherwise it would just be a strait through cut.

Yes he clearly said there is a bomb. where was this footage taken? What building was he referring to? was there a threat called in? It would make good sense to evacuate if there was a bomb threat and i Imagine it would have been taken seriously.

The confiscated footage will eventually be declassified in about 16 years. 8(

[Dingus Mungus]

I can't tell which tower that photo is of, but would it really matter which one it is... But I can tell from the video that they are clearing building 7 as the dust is too settled to be waiting for the second tower to collapse. Also you can tell by the shadows in downtown NYC, that it was roughly noon, which is when they cleared building 7. I hate to ruin this, but does that cut beam at least start to make our case? You seemed especially noteful of the thermate viens. Any further comments on that picture or possible cutting devices?

~Dingus Mungus

[d3adp00l]

I would guess that the pic was taken days after the collapse. I have seen a lot of cuttin tools in my time but none that would cut 4" thick steel on one pass. I notice that there seems to be a lack of photo evidence of the remains of the buildings, or the remains being removed. Sure there are some overall site photos, but ones like thing seem to be rare. Anyone else notice that also? Personally I feel insulted that we were all fed a line of bull so quickly, and that what happened was "used" to milk the cow a little more.

[dingbat]

This is a picture from December 15, 2001. Notice the man cutting beams with a torch for removal.

I find it odd that the beams and steel are rusted in the "thermite" picture, and that there is no dust.  I guess that particular area wasn't coated with grey dust like the rest of the city was "right after" 9/11.

[btester1]

Some good new amazing articles to look at.

Digitally doctoring Al-Qaeda Video tapes by the pentagon by IntelCenter.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/020807tapesdoctored.htm

Al Qaeda gots the mad photoshop skillz
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/02/wired-al-qaeda-gots-the-mad-photoshop-skillz/

Al-Qaeda=Al-Ciada photoshop