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9/11 truth movement topic

Started by FreeEnergy, August 01, 2006, 06:08:06 AM

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Should we leave this thread on overunity.com ?

Yes, leave it here, we have to expose the inside job.
No, delete this thread, political things don't fit over here.
I don't have time for this!
I don't care!
Remove this poll!

HopeForHumanity

Quote from: ring_theory on August 23, 2007, 02:08:53 AM
Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 23, 2007, 02:04:31 AM
While showing the videos to the person next to me, we both noticed something. Why were the videos repeating frame till the end?

What does that have to do with it? and you said i believe the media hype now your seeking a conspiracy within someones shitty editing job? OMFG!!

I asked why! I didn't try to start a conspiracy. How can you just conclude that?
Ron Paul is internet overunity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXnBZd4nyWk

WE MUST STOP THIS! Free energy is being surpressed because of it!

ring_theory

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 23, 2007, 02:12:04 AM
Quote from: ring_theory on August 23, 2007, 02:08:53 AM
Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 23, 2007, 02:04:31 AM
While showing the videos to the person next to me, we both noticed something. Why were the videos repeating frame till the end?

What does that have to do with it? and you said i believe the media hype now your seeking a conspiracy within someones shitty editing job? OMFG!!

I asked why! I didn't try to start a conspiracy. How can you just conclude that?

by the way you hold on to the whole 9/11 conspiracy thing like it's to be coddled.

ring_theory

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 23, 2007, 02:10:47 AM
Quote from: ring_theory on August 23, 2007, 02:03:58 AM
Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 23, 2007, 01:46:22 AM
WE ARE ONLY POINTING OUT FACTS,

You are pointing nothing of the sort. LOL! You don't have one fact right. You are a nut if you believe what is presented as a conspiracy is fact. LOL!

It is a fact that there were things of demolition nature present in the collapse
It is a fact that the smoke from the towers represented a choked fire
It is a fact that the fire colors represented a cold fire
It is a fact that the steel from the building was removed to early
It is a fact that the core of the building was missing, even though in the pancake model  its still there
It is a fact that the concrete was completely vaporized
It is a fact that explosive elements were present after the collapse
It is a fact that people heard multiple explosions from the tower
I could go on and on, but these are just "conspiracies". How could vaporized concrete be a "fact"? ::)

"It is a fact that there were things of demolition nature present in the collapse"
No there was one similarity. the buildings went from a constructed structure to a pile of rubble. Due to gravity! but still no proof of a conspiracy

"It is a fact that the smoke from the towers represented a choked fire"
No! Smoke does not constitute that there was no fire or that the fire was being suffocated. There was a hole you could fit an aircraft through there was plenty of oxygen. but still no proof of a conspiracy

"It is a fact that the fire colors represented a cold fire"
Cold fire? Um ok. but still no proof of a conspiracy

"It is a fact that the steel from the building was removed to early"
I agree but still doesn't present that it was a conspiracy.

"It is a fact that the core of the building was missing, even though in the pancake model  its still there"
They didn't pancake. it was a flow similar to an avalanche somewhat contained by the outer structure of the towers till they too became victim. but still no proof of a conspiracy

"It is a fact that the concrete was completely vaporized"
Yes it was vaporized or rather pulverized. but still no proof of a conspiracy.

"It is a fact that explosive elements were present after the collapse"
Yeah with a couple other million elements. but still no proof of a conspiracy

"It is a fact that people heard multiple explosions from the tower"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI-RCpdy9tw&NR=1 I'm hearing very clearly a constant rumble of churning matter. NOT explosions! but still no proof of a conspiracy. 

"How could vaporized concrete be a "fact"?"
Um ok whatever!  ???

d3adp00l

Quote from: shruggedatlas on August 23, 2007, 12:32:48 AM
I will admit I have not read this entire thread.  However, to any of you who think the U.S. government or the Administration somehow planned this, I have to ask - assuming this was the outcome they wanted, the do you really think they would take the chance?  There would almost be guaranteed leaks.  If exposed, the planners would surely face trial and life sentences or worse.  And believe me, someone would talk.

In the following video, Noam Chomsky, the great liberal and no friend to the Bush administration, makes this argument better than I ever could.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM

How many covert ops go on from our and other gov. that don't get leaked? Many and so this isn't like that huh.
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d3adp00l

@hope, It is a fact the Deutsche Bank Building caught fire after being damaged from the debris from the towers and it did not collapse...
  It is a fact that a building burned in china recently.... it did not collaspe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bank_Building

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History is full of people who out of fear,
Or ignorance, or lust for power have
destroyed knowledge of immeasurable
value which truly belongs to us all.

WE must not let it happen again.
-Carl Sagan