9/11 truth movement topic

[hartiberlin]

so it's ok for them to call me names and i know d3ad posted a couple times just calling me names etc dingus same thing. This is my country were talking about and I'm going to defend her till the death. if i see where someone is trying to harm her by making a conspiracy out of a traumatic event such as a terrorist attack I'm on it. this is one of them cases. I don't post about your country which you may defend with equal fervor. If the roles were reversed and (i am a webmaster) would i allow both sides to be represented. definitely or it's not a discussion.

I would much rather be posting OU stuff and i do. but i keep getting distracted by those trying to further disgrace my country and the 3000+ souls that died on that fate filled day. sure it angers me by posting pure conjecture about mute points that have nothing to do with what actually happened on 9/11. you said they addressed my points well they did everything but address them. at no point did they argue the point of the towers collapsing in a manner similar to an avalanche.

I used to look up to you. I remember thinking there is a guy dedicating his time and money to finding FE and OU. In a manner that allows an international research of such in a somewhat professional manner keeping focused on FE and OU. than the 9/11 topic and you showed your true colors losing the respect i had for you and those in the community that try to force the conspiracy theory down my and the rest of the worlds throat.

The world will have my technology it just won't be introduced through OU.com as i had planned.   

It seems you just don?t want to see the facts, that the towers did not just collapse !!!

The towers were exploded via explosives !!!!

How often do we have to tell you this and prove it via evidence
videos

Did you ever watch the videos ?


If they would have collapsed it would have taken at least 3 to 10 times as long
and would have been without this explosive dust clouds !!!!

When will you finally see this


P.S: You are trying to defend your country from the wrong people,
you have to look at the shadow people that seem rule your country...

[chadj2]

The thing that puzzles me more than anything else on this forum of all places is; why would people on this forum be so trustful of the government story without asking questions. I dont understand why people who are so trustful of the government would be examining overunity or free energy. The government has already clearly stated that there is no free energy and we havent brought forward any working device so therefore you should believe your government. But most people on this board know just like myself that the government lies constantly; especially if it has something to be gained by the lying. If you dont think so look at history and pick some examples of some good honest government that prevailed for any period of time.

[stevewal2]

Hi,
I hav'nt looked at this thread for a while, I personally think that everyone is entitled to their opinions including ring_theory, I have to admire your steadfastness. i don't actually agree with you, but full credit to your determination. And Stefan maybe you should ignor your emails on tis one, as it is obviosly a debate thread and subjects of such magnitude are going to get heated.

Personally My belief purely upon looking at as many video and audio tapes of the collapse three buildings, without taking into account any other evidence, is they were demolished by explosives. The acceleration of collapse is far too fast, as if the standing structure below the impact offered absolutely no resitance once the collapse had started. It seems to me that the only way to attain this, is by continually exploding the structure below the progressive collapse zone. I guess if demolition company was going to legitimately destroy similar height buildings, this would be one way of ensuring the desired virtical collapse which the normal bottom up demolition may not.

Many people I talk to cannot beleive that a government that is supposed to protect the people would organise such an outrage. This I find in someway rather comforting  given the normal propensity for people to believe other human beings have similar ethics as themselves. But in another way quite frustration as the people behind the curtain obviously do not have similar values as people who trust their government, as if they did they would only weild as much power as those people, which they clearly do not. The people with the most power are often the those that want power the most, which are also usually the people you would least like to trust with power. We are also talking about many decades and generations of abuse of power in American forein and domestic policy in combination with the unseen special interests it supports (not that most other countries around the world are any different).

911, in my view, was a stepping up of a general trend that was taking place for many years for most part without impeachment. The  power of the media was used like never before, which in general is what people believe. Even if someone came forward admitting to  personally placing the explosives, no one would believe them. They would beleive what the media had package for general consumption.

Cheers,
Steve.   

[chadj2]

Stefan,

I forgot to mention that I do agree with Steve that ring_theory should be able to post here. I hope we wouldn't want to resemble all those stupid neocon forums that ban any post you make that questions the stupid war on terror and then calls you an America Hater. After all if we dont support freedom of speech for our enemies we dont support it at all. Just my 2 cents.

Chad

[HopeForHumanity]

I think posting on here is fine, just don't call anyone a nutcase. This thread was supposed to be a area to post information on the towers. But so far, ring theory has tried to put down people who post information that helps people who believe the tower was bombed. I'm just getting tired of being called a nutcase by leading me to uninformative links, and people assuming that I hate America. I feel like I posted facts then ring theory comes along and calls me nuts. I don't understand why it's nuts to point out things you can easily see. If people are on here posting valuable information, RESPECTING others who think different, and won't assume the intentions of people who question 9/11, then I have no problem. However, ring theory has put down those who think different, and has so far represented a thread troll. I was nice to him tell he started calling me and others a nutcase. I feel if ring theory wants to continue to post hear that he should start demonstrating respect to others facts. Otherwise, he should be blocked before polluting the thread any further.