9/11 truth movement topic

[zero]

I love the video which shows the plane going thru the tower... and its
nose it perfectly in tact!!!

As I wrote someone else:


You could probably dent a plane nose with a baseball bat.   Its lightweight
materials like aluminum.

Its also HOLLOW.

There is no way in HELL that a HOLLOW lightweight aluminum structure
will pass thru steel beams that have weights in the thousands of
pounds.     All connected together,  with thousands of pounds worth
or concrete to hold them in place.

The thing would crumple like a coke can.   Completely flattened.


You can see what happens when a DRUNK DRIVER hits a TREE with a
car even at low speeds.   A Cars engine and structure is more dense
and strong..  and it crumples.    It never Knocks over a strong rooted
tree.   Let alone maybe 5 trees.   Or should we say,  5 pillars of steel
that weight 20,000lbs each.

[ring_theory]

Ringo is a Disinformationist.

Plane and simple.  Trying to spread confusion and redirecting the
real truths. 

You can be assured this, because he does not watch any
link given to him.   He does not care about the truth.


All those political scandals are a drop in the bucket to
confuse people of the real truths.   

Both Carey and Bush were members of the secret Illuminati
club called "Skull and Bones", which started out under the
name of something like "Brotherhood of Death".   And NOBODY
who has entered it, will speak of what happened in there.   And
anyone who has been in there... has always landed a top political position.

Its they who pull the strings.  Not the puppets that are the
so called 'leaders'.   These high power bankers, which own
all the money and gold.. including the Federal Reserve (which
usa has no control over, nor has EVER done an audit on). 
They control most everything.   Owning the news, tv,
big businesses and much more.   

  Those terror attacks, everything from cole to NYC, are all
staged events made to incite wars and changes.  Lockdowns
to gain further control, power, and money.

Your the one spreading the disinformation. I'm the one telling the truth here! I have did my homework on the subject.
I watch EVERY VID twice once no sound if it is like the planes crashing into towers fall of towers etc, and then with sound, EVERY LINK IS VISITED and read, EVERY POST IS READ and considered!
I hate the bush administration! I didn't vote for him! I don't like what he has done to our civil liberties. His no child left behind has left every child behind. the not so patriotic, patriot act SUX! warrentless wiretaps was a roose to cover his pressing of the patriot act agenda.

Zero there is NOTHING you have posted that comes as a surprise to me. I've seen it all, and yes some of what you have posted is true and the rest is a potential scenario.

@btester1
1.6 bln thing is nothing new how do you think that the news agencies got so rich? what did you want a cookie?

@freezer

what's this guy doing? the beam could have been cut by workers. Do you know when this image was taken?

[d3adp00l]

The missing background isn't, if you know perspective well you can pick out the fact that the shots are from two different helicopters one a couple hunder feet above the other and offset slightly. There are numerous perspective glitches in this film, however the shot of the empire state building being on both sides of the screen looks to be a match and an impossibility. I have seen these theories before and I personally don't think their right. Alot of interesting points, but I don't buy it. better proof would be needed. Thats alot of video editing to do.

[Dingus Mungus]

I'm not saying I agree with the theory either...
There are just a lot of odd video/audio artifacts.
I'm trying to find high res mpg2 originals now.

[Albert Johnson]

@ Dingus Mungus

Maybe this link can help you further:
http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive

I recommend this tool (and a big hard drive) for downloading videos:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006

For me it is obvious that the planes/the backgrounds are fake (CGI).
Just look at the different trajectories of the "planes" on the various news-channels and of course the fade to black and nose-out-plane on FOX.
All just coincidences and a matter of perspective?
I don't think so...
I think that every time the background gets blurry and has strange colours (purple,...) - it's cgi-showtime.
The NBC chopper video seems to be real but the object (the "blob") caught on this video definitely doesn't look like a big plane to me.
I know this may go to far but the "blob" has more similarities to these objects than to a Boeing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6vP8-SbU0
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3615029897397109374&q=crop+circle&total=1720&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8

If this video is a fake - it is a very well done fake (especially because it's from 1989).
I don't know.