The Solution vs Hoax equation

[Tom Booth]

Tom, this board already offers a "Prize" for a verifiable OU/FE device.

Really? I wasn't aware of that.

Can you provide more information about this or point me to it. I'm curious.

The funding of that prize is from board members who's intent is presumably to do what they can to promote the discovery of a OU/FE device that could potentially change our world.  Your reply is someone suggesting their donations are not generous, nor charitable, but are via self-interest.

My reply was made with no awareness of any such prize or donations. My apologies to anyone who may have been offended by my comments, which BTW were not made with any members of this forum in mind but rather with my own past experience. After posting info about my engine on another forum I was directly contacted by phone by a company offering to fund the building of a prototype. I was asked how much it would take. 1 million, 2, 3 ?

I laughed and said: probably about 2 or three hundred dollars. A thousand maybe at most. He said he was "putting me down for $250 thousand.

In followup conversations I mentioned how I had already posted information about the engine online over a year ago and had given out all the details (US patent law states that a patent is forfeited - the invention becomes public domain - 1 year after "public display") and for other reasons, obtaining a patent would likely be impossible.

With that I was told it would be nearly impossible to find investors without a patent, and that was that. No quarter million, not even $200. No further interest.

Other comments were likewise based on previous personal experience and were not meant to be taken as being directed at anyone here.

...I've been working on OU/FE for decades and only recently became aware of this board (about 2 years ago). 

It appears that "audiomaker" registered here > November 22, 2012, 09:52:04 PM

Presumably you haven't remained silent for the past 2 years.

I only point this out, not to be accusative or suggest any impropriety, but it goes to the credibility factor I mentioned earlier. If I happen to be a "Free Energy" inventor with a real device in my garage and I'm contacted by who? A "sock puppet" from an internet message board and his cohorts... Should I be "cooperative"?

Someone in here suggested a few sources of possible "help" or "funding" including Bigelow Aerospace? Hal Puthoff ? Joe Firmage ?

Forgive me for saying so but in my general reading and research these circles appear to be crawling with "spooks".

I mention this only because of what can happen with patent applications that have potential "military application". A water filter or a battery can have potential military application.

So exactly who is it from this forum that wants to take a look at my OU/FE device?

Col. John Alexander ? Not likely.

Suggesting that this is "my" project is... well...hmm...true in a way.  If you read the whole thread you will discover that it wasn't my intent, just an observation of a flaw and I also made a rough suggestion on how that flaw could be remedied to a degree.

Only in the sense that you - audiomaker, whoever you are, started this thread and are the apparent chief spokesperson for the idea here at present. It (or any such project) would be a group effort.

... We cannot possibly support and fund every inventor who simply states theory, or even those who simply claim success because there are 100's if not 1000's of them...

It seems to me that your intent is basically to reduce what is "on your radar screen" to a minimum. Winnow out the wheat from the chaff.

Immediately you are talking about numerous expeditions. This "project" could be ongoing indefinitely. No?

How about we just start with one and see where it goes?

I'm personally very curious about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhwQt1tJYa8

There is a thread in this forum:

http://www.overunity.com/5176/selfrunning-waterpump-generator-device-runs-60-watts-lamp/#.UL2YnVL4JGc

US Patent Pending "US Patent App #2007001846

Who would go to all the trouble of applying for a patent if it was just a hoax?

An awful lot of trouble just to light one light bulb but... If such a seemingly crude device works...

There is a name and address on the patent application.

Or, take your pick. What ONE claim or device "on your radar" seems to you to be worth putting some time and money into to investigate further?

[audiomaker]

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It appears that "audiomaker" registered here > November 22, 2012, 09:52:04 PM

Presumably you haven't remained silent for the past 2 years.
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I stated I was aware of this board two years ago...and no, I didn't register.  I lurked here and there...not much.  I wouldn't say I "remained silent".  I would say I didn't really visit much at all.

The rest of your post I will address later in the day.

[Tom Booth]

I stated I was aware of this board two years ago...and no, I didn't register.  I lurked here and there...not much.  I wouldn't say I "remained silent".  I would say I didn't really visit much at all.

This is not really of any importance to me personally. I could care less what usernames people have or use or how many.

Reading through this thread though, I get the impression that you are VERY familiar with this forum, seem to class yourself generally among the "experts" here, at least by inference in that it seems logical you would be part of the investigating efforts you are proposing, you seem to know what is or isn't within the capabilities or resources of this forum to do.

In other words I find it hard to believe that you Lurked around for 2 years ("I lurked here and there...not much... I would say I didn't really visit much at all.) Then reared your head, apparently with the explicit purpose of starting this thread. (you registered just a few days prior) And yet you have come to the conclusion that there are people here with the qualifications to carry out such a plan and are now ready to assemble a team of investigators - - - on the basis of what ? your "Newbie" status ?

Its a good idea anyway. If it were a TV series I'd watch it. "The Hunt for Overunity" coming soon on the FOX Network.

[audiomaker]

This is not really of any importance to me personally. I could care less what usernames people have or use or how many.

Reading through this thread though, I get the impression that you are VERY familiar with this forum, seem to class yourself generally among the "experts" here, at least by inference in that it seems logical you would be part of the investigating efforts you are proposing, you seem to know what is or isn't within the capabilities or resources of this forum to do.

In other words I find it hard to believe that you Lurked around for 2 years ("I lurked here and there...not much... I would say I didn't really visit much at all.) Then reared your head, apparently with the explicit purpose of starting this thread. (you registered just a few days prior) And yet you have come to the conclusion that there are people here with the qualifications to carry out such a plan and are now ready to assemble a team of investigators - - - on the basis of what ? your "Newbie" status ?

Its a good idea anyway. If it were a TV series I'd watch it. "The Hunt for Overunity" coming soon on the FOX Network.

Um... OK.

First, it doesn't take much to find the "Prize" forum as it is one of the main forums of the site.  It's kind of hard to miss.

Secondly, I never suggested that *I* would be a recommended person to examine devices.  I only said that "Even I would be qualified to examine some types of machines"... inferring that it's not that difficult for someone with basic electrical knowledge.  Put another way "Any monkey with a VOM could likely do it", which suggests that for at least initial examinations, that it shouldn't be too hard to find qualified volunteers.

Thirdly, I don't "class myself" here at all.  I certainly don't present the dogmatism that permeates the board regularly.  I stated who I am at the beginning of the thread.
I joined this board because I had a thought in the middle of the night... not even a unique one perhaps... but I wanted to share it before I forgot it.  You can likely find that post in the "New Theories" section.  It's not that old.

I would not claim that I am an expert at anything, in fact, I claim only that for my ignorance, and freshness to this board, that some things strike me that might get overlooked by the people who endlessly chase their own tails and each other's in this forum while seemingly not much gets done beyond that.

If I were to claim experience however, it would be in having moderated other types of forums for decades and from that having seen how even the smartest people get addicted to negative energy and the the overwhelming compulsion to hear themselves speak (errr..type).
You see, some people just need to argue... even if there's no forward progress to be had from it.  This board... is no exception.  Smart Humans it seems...are still human.

It's no big deal. Believe as you like.  For me, I return to the OU/FE thing every once in awhile to "check progress" as it were.  Usually that's just Googling, some YouTube, and some browsing.
This time I joined a message board while FE thoughts were on my mind.  Pretty simple really.

If I start getting baited into the negative energy feeding cycle, I'll just stop coming, although I must say that if one could tap into that cycle, we'd have all the energy we could ever use.

[Tom Booth]

I joined this board because I had a thought in the middle of the night... not even a unique one perhaps... but I wanted to share it before I forgot it.  You can likely find that post in the "New Theories" section.  It's not that old.

Yes, something about there's no such thing as magnetism.

If you really want to clear your radar screen, the most immediate solution I can suggest is keep handing them one at a time over to TinselKoala. If it can survive his analysis it might be worth looking into further, if there is anything left. At any rate it makes for entertaining and educational banter. Where'd he go anyway, still sulking?