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Lynx Joule Inverter

Started by Lynxsteam, November 29, 2012, 12:42:40 PM

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e2matrix

Quote from: Flumen on December 28, 2012, 03:17:30 PM
Hi Lakes
Yes, I read your earlier comment where you said you'd be worried to find any voltage between the neutral and earth in a mains output receptacle. That's why I'm thinking something's up with the wiring (although, I'm using a rod stuck in the ground outside for an earth).
In Poland, in older flats like mine, they rarely bother with putting in a decent earth (as far as I can tell). And I can see there are only two wires leading up to the receptacle.


@e2matrix (or anyone else) - you have wired up houses - can you please explain what you think might be going on with my wiring? (I have little knowledge on this.)  :-[
Tomorrow, I'll cut all the power to the flat and see what happens ...
(Lynx - apologies if this is leading off topic.)

Regards
Flumen

Hi Flumen,   I'm not at all sure how wiring is done in Poland but I would suspect that either the neutral is ungrounded and just like a second 'hot' wire or it could be possibly wired backwards at the outlet or breaker box etc.  You may want to look at the voltage between the 'Hot' and ground.  If that's a small amount then I would say the hot and neutral are backwards.   If it's also 230 vac then it may be an ungrounded system in your house and both sides are essentially 'hot'.  Lots of possibilities but do be careful with those voltages as I'm sure you know those are not something you want to make a mistake with touching. 

Flumen

e2matrix and synchro1, thank you for your replies and advice! You were right e2matrix, both lines are hot.
I cut the power to the flat and took measurements - only about 200 mV ac, but a steady 0.56 V dc from the 'neutral' and a little less from the 'live', with the DMM hooked up on one side to my grounding rod wire. Would that be normal? Stray dc voltage? Or a result of a short circuit or something?  :-\  Any more advice/ comments appreciated, but as you say, e2matrix - many possibilities, and I don't want to clutter up this thread.

-edit - Just tested another receptacle, with the mains power to the flat reconnected, and this one seems to be wired ok, although still measuring 0.56 V dc and about 200 mV ac on the neutral line, again with one end of the DMM connected to the earthing rod.
Flumen

Lakes

Quicks tests with DMM

Mains Socket earth - other croc clip held in my hand 1.4v AC
Socket earth - Cold Water pipe 0v A.C. (as expected, they will be bonded together somewhere)

Socket Neutral - Water Pipe 0.4v A.C.
Neutral - Other croc clip handheld 1v A.C.

totoalas

modified tate circuit 
removed the nf cap andchanged dc cap to 4700 microfarad 35 v dc all diodes in4007
it can light upa 12v dc led bulb in a flash or light in a second
charge rate 4 minutes from o to 12v in the output


with ac led bulb 3 watts continuosly flashing on theckt

totoalas

totoalas

with 2 tate ckt in parallel the output is lessened and will only light a bulb in one circuit

maybe the max output from tje ac neutra; and earth is limited to ome circuit only

pulse charging is one way of using the circuit