UFO politics Keeps his word 12-12 12 Let the games begin.......

[picowatt]

Now it appears that KCL is out the window, and you cannot measure DC current at the negative pole of the supply.... only the positive one. And of course, the Kyoritsu manual is cited as support for this.... when it actually is only pointing out how to know the correct _direction_ of the current and says nothing about whether one _must_ measure on the positive or negative side of the load.
(emphasis in the original)


Further, he is using a Chicago Electric wattmeter. From the reviews of this product on the Harbor Freight website:

I have to wonder how a properly measured DC current could be different on either side of a load.

TK,

I just read the following quote from UFO on 8-18-12:

"NOW WHEN IT COMES TO TESTING MY MACHINES , MY DESIGN IN ORDER TO COMPARE THEM, CRITICIZE THEM, ANALYZE THEM OR WHATEVER...I RESERVE ENTIRELY THE RIGHT TO APPROVE OR NOT TO APPROVE ANY OF THOSE TESTINGS, IF THEY ARE NOT DONE, MADE OR EFFECTED ACCORDING TO MY SPECIFICATIONS, MY EXPLANATIONS AND MY FINAL DECISIONS."


Oh well...

PW

[tinman]

Hi Guy's

It is good to see some that can see how thing's realy are.
But some word's of warning from some one that knows first hand
If you are going to post on UFO's thread over at EF,and are not one of his follower's
1-dont question his measuring method's
2-dont try and correct his followers in reguard's to what will happen to the amp draw to an incandecant bulb when the volts rize.
3-dont try to defend your self when UFO's army come charging.

As some here may have seen,i know first hand what happens if you do any of the above.

I also see that if you replicate any of his motor design's,that all measurment's taken must now be approved by UFO him self-(as stated in comment above)
I guess the good thing about that is,many of us will now be able to build overunity system's.

It is mentioned in a post here not long ago,that a man built one of UFO's motor/generator setup's.
If it is the same guy i am thinking about,then you would have to agree that it was built to exact specification's and that measurment's would have been very precise.
This man the tried to make some point's on how UFO could impprove his setup,and like mentioned above-was crucified for his effort's.
I know this man,and there could not be a kinder person out there in the FE comunity.

The thing that has me stumped is that UFO claims to be trained in physic's,electronic's and is a mechanic aswell.
But two simple measurment's seem to elude him?(input and output)

[poynt99]

Kogs,

Does UFO have overunity, yes or no?

[scratchrobot]

Kogs,

Does UFO have overunity, yes or no?

Kogs also has OU because he build the $10 motor. I have seen a video from UFOpolitics where he also thought he had OU because he hooked up his motor to a Lipo battery and was all surprised about the torque! He thinks he is some kind of god like some others in the OU comunity.
The truth is he is misleading people!

[Red_Sunset]

Hi Guy's
It is good to see some that can see how thing's realy are.
But some word's of warning from some one that knows first hand
...
But two simple measurment's seem to elude him?(input and output)

Hi Tinman,
You have spoken some true and pivotal words, it is important to keep your feet on the ground. This is easy to do when you are on the fringe.
At the same time it is a different story for someone who is in the heat of the action, right in the middle of it all. His closeup involvement changes all.
All his eggs are in that basket, he might know that not all eggs are good for an omelet but there you come and want to mess with those eggs, you are asking for trouble and that you will get,  this is not so difficult to understand.  It is never nice to see "that good idea" of the last 12 month's obsession being trampled upon.

I call this the human factor,  give it some time and do some prodding peace meal, not too much in one go and the right responses will be received to answers these more difficult questions.  Because in the end OU would cook you an omelet, easy over.

The best OU test is frying omelets, pancakes, make coffee in the middle of a parking lot with an electric pan.  No meters, no batteries anywhere.  Only some nice smelling breakfast.  Now that is a indisputable OU test!

Lets remember that it is easier to breakdown an idea, that it is to bring one to the table.  An unrealized shared idea obviously needs help to get it to full realization,  constructive building criticism is needed here, so gently does it !