Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[nat1971a]

Hi Again,

The horseshoe shaped coils in Tesla patent 464,666 puzzles me. I am starting to think that Tesla has created a ring shaped induction coils of some sort. It is very hard to tell.

He describes it as "a rotating armature of independent field magnets or coils exerted successively and not simultaniously"

He says in the text "wound with coils D, closed upon themselves, as is now the general practice in motors of this kind"

hmmm if we think of these coils as being magnets as he has indicated that they could be magnets then they wouldnt have any polarity and become neutral. So coils closed upon themselves must become neutral too.

Just thinking aloud.

Regards,

Nat

[tao]

http://leedskalnin.com/

Replicated patent 464,666: http://leedskalnin.com/ResonanceMotorlg.html
There used to be a video but I can't find it anymore.

There is also another video below for a different motor, but there was a video for that one pictured above.

[barbosi]

@ Omar,
I agree with you, my question remains: why only 2 primaries? There are 2 more secondaries without primaries. Why without? Cost reduction? don't think so!

@All,
EDIT: intermediate question: Why do we need primaries? just for battery recharge?
And a bigger one (may answer the first question): where is generated the twist/torque? All I could find is (see emphasis added):

1. From wikipedia (we all trust for mainstream science)

Constituent atoms or molecules of paramagnetic materials have permanent magnetic moments (dipoles), even in the absence of an applied field. This generally occurs due to the presence of unpaired electrons in the atomic/molecular electron orbitals. In pure paramagnetism, the dipoles do not interact with one another and are randomly oriented in the absence of an external field due to thermal agitation, resulting in zero net magnetic moment. When a magnetic field is applied, the dipoles will tend to align with the applied field, resulting in a net magnetic moment in the direction of the applied field. In the classical description, this alignment can be understood to occur due to a torque being provided on the magnetic moments by an applied field, which tries to align the dipoles parallel to the applied field. However, the truer origins of the alignment can only be understood via the quantum-mechanical properties of spin and angular momentum.

2. From "Kosol device" I posted earlyer:

In the Russian research of torsion fields, it was discovered that aluminum was unique in that it had the ability to reflect some radiated torsion fields, that would easily travel through copper and other substances. It will also conduct eddy currents quite well and used to be used as wiring in homes. It's resistance to electricity is higher then copper, so eddy currents will be reduced a little, and thus EM fields may be increased with a lower stability factor. When eddy currents are present the metal can be repelled along with the eddy currents produced in it by an AC field. The effect is amplified when the metal is cooled with liquid nitrogen. Spinning aluminum by one pole of a magnet produces a repulsive force.

3. Erfinder said:

Remember the following universal truth


"Positive charge attracts positive charge, and expels negative discharge.  Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge."

                                                                                            The Universal One

Positive Charge = Paramagnetism = EMF
Negative Discharge = Diamagnetism = BEMF

It should look prety obvious how is the mechanism works, but I have to admit, I have trouble making sense to the whole picture (I'm a slow thinker too). The closest representation I could imagine is Grumpy's picture here reproduced again. And this would represent just the rotor. As side efect, this device could be a lifter.
How coils' fields interact with the core, is still a blur.
As for dimensions, octaves and so on, I prefer to live it for later understanding.

[nat1971a]

Hi again,

I think I need to refine my observations and definition further:-

So to summarise my observations to date are:-
1. We have Tesla constructing rotors using a NSNSNSNS configuration with magnets in the basic shape of a ring (the polarity of the magnets cancel and give a neutral magnetic ring). He also used coils that "closed upon themselves" to produce the same "effect". That the coils(that are closed upon themselves) / magnets are either touching each other or are very close to each other. Tesla used 6 & 4 magnets in his rotor designs and for whatever reason decided on 4 magnets as being a better number 5 years later.
2. We have Tesla constructing primary & secondary coils and placing them at the neutral points (points of neutrality)
3. This correlates to ERfinders schematic and postings.
4. And also we have Tesla constructing a segmented circuit controller that appears to be the same size as the rotor to control the number of pulses. He used 4 poles or 4 segments
5. The number of RPM's appear to be very important


Draft - Definition of Neutral in relation to magnets

Neutral , void and bloch wall appear to be the same thing.

When does it occur? Well it occurs when two magnets are joined together in a NSNS configuration. The SN in the middle cancel out and become neutral and you are left with a N & S at each end.

It also occurs in each magnet naturally at the mid point between the N & the S poles.

So for example if we connect 8 square magnets to together, we get NSNSNSNSNSNSNSNS in a straight line. All the intermediary N & S poles cancel and become neutral and we are left with N at the start and S at the end.

So if we connect 8 magnets together to form a ring as in the configuration above all the N & S poles cancel out and we are left with only neutral points. The neutral points being where the magnets connect and in the middle of the magnets. Hence we have a ring of neutral polarity.

These principles appear to also apply if the magnets are very close together

This principle appears to also applies to coils that are "closed upon themselves". i.e toroids or coils in the shape of a ring

Regards

Nat

[barbosi]

Hi Nat,

What do you think:
You have a soft iron toroid and you cut a slice (like you byte a donut). You replace that slice with a permanent magnet (the perfect geometric replacement). Is this a perfect replacement for the magnet ring from Erfinder's device? (It still is a magnet closed upon itself, with no externaly radiating magnetic field)

Later, the point is why 4 magnets? For the outside world, the donut is seen as a neutral, self canceled magnet, no poles, yet manetic field is prezent but contained.
The only thing I see is: if an external field would interact with this contained field, it would determining a "push". Because the ring is secured to the aluminum rotor, there is the torque.

And again, if this happens only because of the field contained in the ring, why is the need for aluminum core?

Bump.. bump...