Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[barbosi]

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- GIVENS (the elements involved in this model):
  1. Flux
  2. Void
  3. Positive Charge (inward motion)
  4. Negative Discharge of Energy (outward motion)
  5. Fields
  6. Electricity
  7. direction/movement
  8. displacement
  9. vortexes
  10. equator
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zepharim,
I think you are absolutely right with this approach. Equaly important I consider seting up a common language. This is required also because different inventors/scientists in the past although were working on the same field, described same things using different terminology. At least for me, this is a major issue.

Another issue is with the "GIVENS" as you say. An example (see quote) is the terms I marked on bold (Positive Charge, Negative Discharge). Consider now dealing with a virgin mind and before explaining what Positive Charge and Negative Discharge is, that virgin mind looks at the words and automaticaly assumes there is also Positive Discharge and Negative Charge. As we speak, I still don't know if this assumption is correct or not.

The problem I fight is not accepting the information and pondering, but rather to remove redundat information. As Erfinder said, we have more than enough. I search now to find what is just enough, minimal to sink in.

Regards.

[louis]

i just spoke to emagnets and they told me about 250 ukp to tool up for a magnet.
but when i mentioned 6 inch od and 2 inch id they told me its too big for them to make.
this magnet is huge. and i think will have to be home made, unless we can scale it down.

[barbosi]

Thinking to Leedskalnin's  perpetual motion holder, I cannot help it to bring back the theoretical setup I proposed, with an iron toroid and a magnet inserted as a slice. (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=133.0;attach=7396)

From Leedskalnin I learn that in this case iron is just a conductor for the magnetic current (a shunt, a short circuit) and doesn't have a neutral point.

In the case I proposed with the toroid, the iron is acting like a pipe, offering just a path where the magnetic current / flux lines (as described by Leedskalnin, north and south magnets or as described by Erfinderin his Natures_Magnet.png) is flowing.

In the case of perpetual motion holder, here is my interpretation (more or less romantic). Once started in motion in the iron core, the "North magnets" and "South magnets" are searching for their pair in whirling motion. In all this whirling motion, they cannot reach eachother, but as long they have a way (path) to continue the search, they will do it. And will use all means to maintain that path. It's like being cursed perpetualy to search for their pair.

That's it. Other views?

[louis]

i was under the impression that the number of void points ( the one in the middle of each magnet, and the ones where the joins between the magnets) is important to maintain the harmony of this thing, i figured it will inject a field from the coils into the magnet ring, and will pick up back from them the opposite type of field.
and so maybe shorting out all but 1 void via a steel bar, would render it inoperable or very lobsided.

has anyone crunched the numbers on this thing yet, they are all inter related but i cant find the starting point.

[barbosi]

I just found a picture that might suggest the rush into void.
Notice flows in opposite direction too?

Source: http://www.goldenmuseum.com/index_engl.html site dedicated to Golden Ratio.