Free Solid State/mechanical energy

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I will be looking at the patents more as soon as I can. I may need to go out of town for a couple of days, but I will try and read some on the patents. Seems that Tesla normally uses Positive for Ground and not negative. 


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[Maximumgravity1]

In re-reading a few things, and possibly due to the late hour, I think the obvious slipped by.  What are the clues to his "preferred" method of charge?

Patent 685658
"My own experiments and observations, however, lead me to conclusions more in accord with the theory heretofore advanced by me that sources of radiant energy throw off with great velocity minute particles of matter which are strongly electrified, and therefore capable of charging an electrical conductor, or even if not so may at any rate discharge an electrified conductor either by carrying off bodily its charge or otherwise." (Pg1 L24-34)

"It is clear from what has been stated above that if the terminal T' is connected to a plate supplying positive instead of negative electricity the rays should convey negative electricity to the plate.  The source S may be any form of Roentgen or Lenard tube; but it is obvious from the theory of action that in order to be very effective the electrical impulses exiting it should be wholly or at least preponderatingly of one sign." (Pg3 L10-19)

"...consists of charging one of the armatures of a condenser by rays or radiations, and the other by independent means..."  This last one is repeated in various ways through all 6 summaries.

I think it is clear that the charges don't matter, as this is the only patent that we have read that mentions the charges.  Secondly, it is clear that the charges can be alternated depending on the charge of the "independent means" that the opposite armature is connected to.

So it seems one of the preferred ways of charging capacitors is through different sources or circuits.

However, I am still trying to figure out exactly what this means and why it is so:
"You don't use postive current to charge a capacitor, you use a negative discharge, in this way you can use a smaller capacitor."

[allcanadian]

I was reading through patent 568176 for the third time and picked up this statement.

"the secondary L of which constitutes the source of current of high frequency which may be applied to many useful purposes, as for electric illumination, the operation of the Crookes tubes or the production of high vacua."

Now this is interesting, "the production of high vacua" especially considering the following statement from Walter Russell-- "Positive electricity is accountable for the solids and negative electricity is accountable for the space. All matter comes out of space by the action of positive electricity and is returned to space by the action of negative electricity."
And here is a statement from Victor Schauberger "Started by an impulse-giving motor, the implosion machine sucks in the surrounding air and water masses and reverses their polarity through a tangental, predominantly radial to axial, in-winding motion. In this way the diamagnetic, negative pressure comes into being."

So here we have three men, some consider the greatest minds of the last century, all of them producing unexplainable machines. All of them state in no uncertain terms that these effects are due to negative potentials, negative potentials that can also produce
astronomical vacuums. I don't think you need to be the sharpest crayon in the box to figure this out, but apparently science has not.

So here is my question of the day---
We have the following statements.
"Positive charge attracts positive charge and expels negative discharge."
"negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge"

So if negative discharge(Bemf) repels both negative discharge and positive charge what is left?

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barbosi
 
Your statement in the EDIT section does make sence.

EDIT: On a second thought, if that "positive charge" is allowed to pass through rotary switch (ON) and "p" to ground, then when the switch goes OFF, the capacitor gets charged by BEMF... Painful to have such simple circuit and not to be sure how it works.

We must remember that the BEMF is playing a big role in this circuit and really all of Tesla's circuits. This is an AC circuit and thus the flow is two ways and that is mainly what we see here. Not sure on the Switch, but the capacitor is loading that way due to the pulses in the circuit. I will try and explain more of why I am saying this. I am trying to find out right now If I need leave tonight for my trip or tomorrow night.


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[barbosi]

Well, I was looking to Erfinder's circuit and it looks like [fig.2 circuit pat.685958 and] capacitor is charged with void. Vacua if you want.

When switch is ON, no EMF (DC) is permitted to be stored in capacitor:

1. Erfinder's drawing: we have + on both armatures.
2. Fig.2 pat.685958, EMF flows through primary P which puts on short the capacitor.

Instead it stores only BEMF.

EDIT: The same in patents 568176, 568177, 568178, 568179. In 464666 the capacitor is in secondary circuit, so it has no EMF again, only BEMF.

Yoohoo! did I get a smiley face as prize?
allcanadian, you really need to look for your old setup to give it a try. A push button and a fast finger will do it.