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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Charlie_V

DOH! My apologies Grumpy!  Your absolutely right about the dimensions.  22.5mm is going to be shorter so it would be 127.56".  I realized this too late and you had already replied haha.  I had my X in the wrong place. 

Thanks for the picture too.  So, the current traversing the switch, assuming the switch and aluminum axis are not insulated, is what will produce the force on the wheel?  Or would it be the eddy currents generated by the secondaries on the aluminum axial - kinda like putting an aluminum can in the center of an induction motor?

After looking at it, it seems the secondaries are at right angles to the magnetic ring so their flux shouldn't affect it - I think.  I made a magnetic ring like that before a long time ago.  Metal objects wouldn't stick to the magnets because the flux was completely enclosed.  I didn't try to see what other magnets would do if placed on the loop, but they probably would've had no effect. 

barbosi

Quote from: Charlie_V on February 22, 2007, 07:36:04 PM
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Last thing to wrap up.  Mainstream science is not 100% completely wrong.  If it was, none of us would be typing on a computer, living in a home with electricity, and reaping the benefits of indoor plumbing.  I do feel that mainstream does limit themselves creatively.  Remember, even Tesla used modern science in his research - if you don't believe me, read any number of his actual works - they sound pretty mainstream to me - just unrestricted!

I think what Erfinder2 was saying is that mainstream sience was deflected about 200 years ago. Of course algebra, geometry, etc. were older than that and it was imposible to simply hide them (or twist them).

An example might be the concept of "octave" which by "convenience" was defined as 2^n of frequency. Which one is the first frequency? We can choose one with no relation to music whatsoever.
Another example I think is "phi". Although was known and used in the history, nowadays has no meaning.
The same with Fibonacci numbers. Next logical step for mainstream sience is to take them out from curiculum, since they appear not to have any pragmatic use and replace them with study of, lets say... Project Management with implications on Stock Market growth.

Also, related to the ring magnet, I guess Erfinder2 wanted to say "circular" instead of radial, when he was sugesting how to build the magnet:
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Grumpy if you can can make the magnets know this, they must be radially magnetized.
Although the magnets are 1/4 of a ring, the magnetic field should close circularly.

Regards.
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ResinRat2

 :)
Glossary    
     
Air Gap    A low permeability gap in the flux path of a magnetic circuit. Often air, but inclusive of other materials such as paint, aluminium, etc.
   

Anisotropic Magnet
   A magnet having a preferred direction of magnetic orientation, so that the magnetic characteristics are optimum in one preferred direction.
   
Closed Circuit    This exists when the flux path external to a permanent magnet is confined within high permeability materials that compose the magnet circuit.
   
Coercive Force
(Hc)   The demagnetizing force, measured in Oersteds, necessary to reduce observed induction, B, to Zero after the magnet has previously been brought to saturation.
   
Curie Temperature
(Tc)   The temperature at which the parallel alignement of elementary magnetic moments completely disappears, and the material is no longer able to hold magnetization.
   
Demagnetization Curve    The second quadrant of the hysteresis loop, generally describing the behavior of magnetic characteristics in actual use, also known as the B-H curve.
   
Eddy Currents    Circulating electrical currents that are induced in electrically conductive elements when exposed to changing magnetic fields, creating an opposing force to the magnetic flux. Eddy currents can be harnessed to perform useful work (such as damping of movement), or may be unwanted consequences of certain designs which should be accounted for or minimized.
   
Ferromagnetic Material    A material whose permeability is very much larger than 1 (from 60 to several thousand times), and which exhibits hysteresis phenomena.
   
Flux (?)    The condition existing in a medium subjected to a magnetizing force. This quantity is characterized by the fact that an electromotive force is induced in a conductor surrounding the flux at any time the flux changes in magnitude. The cgs unit of flux is the maxwell.
   
Fringing Fields    Leakage flux particularly associated with edge effects in a magnetic circuit.

   
Gauss   Lines of magnetic flux per square centimeter, cgs unit of flux density, equivalent to lines per square inch in the English system, and webers per square meter or Tesla in the SI system.
   
Hysteresis Loop    A closed curve obtained for a material by plotting corresponding values of magnetic induction, B, (on the abscissa) against magnetizing force, H (on the ordinate).
   
Induction (B)   The magnetic flux per unit area of a section normal to the direction of flux. Measured in Gauss, in the cgs system of units.
   
Intrinsic Coercive force
(Hci)
   Measured in Oersteds in the cgs system, this is a measure of the material's inherent ability to resist demagnetization. It is the demagnetization force corresponding to zero intrinsic induction in the magnetic material after saturation. Practical consequences of high Hci values are seen in greater temperature stability for a given class of material, and greater stability in dynamic operating conditions.
   
Irreversible Loss    Defined as the partial demagnetization of a magnet caused by external fields or other factors. These losses are only recoverable by remagnetization. Magnets can be stabilized to prevent the variation performance caused by irreversible losses.
   
Isotropic magnet    A magnet material whose magnetic properties are the same in any direction.

   
Magnetic Field strength
(H)
   A measurement of the magnetic ability to induce a magnetic field at a given point. This is measured in Oersteds.
   
Magnetic Flux    The total magnetic induction over a certain area.

   
Magnetizing Force
(H)    The magnetomotive force per unit length at any point in the magnetic circuit. this is measured in Oersteds.
   
Magnetomotive Force
(F)
   The magnetic potential difference between any two points.
   
Maxwell    A unit of magnetic flux. One Maxwell is one line of magnetic flux.

   
Oersted, Oe    A unit of magnetic field strength or magnetizing force.

   
Orientation Direction    The direction in which an anisotropic magnet should be magnetized in order to optimize the magnetic properties.
   
Saturation    This is a condition where all magnetic moments have become oriented in one direction.

   
Stabilization   Exposing a magnet to demagnetizing influences which are expected in the application in order to prevent irreversible loss during the operation of the magnet.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Grumpy

I don't think this evice should be viewed in terms of eddy currents and induction.

Erfinder is coupling to the other field that I mentioned which is in the center of the ring.  From what little I know, this field has been linked to gravity in several experiments and the results have been published.  This field is not rally seen as a tool yet, just a convenient way of calculating things. It was not even proven to be tabgible until about 50 years ago or so.

Here is a quote from Walter Russell's book "The Secret of Light", pg 260:

QuoteNo matter what instrument produces  octave tones, it's frequencies and other dimensions must be in the orderliness demanded by the opening and closing spiral pairs which control those tones by conditioning them.  Likewise, no matter what instrument, wether larynx of man, string of violin, carbon wave field or color spectrum, its sole motivating power for producing change of dimension for the purpose of producing change of tone is electric pressure directed by desire and borrowed from the keynote of the octaves stillness.  Furthermore, all power thus borrowed for one expression in any octave tone must be in balance with the opposite of that tone within which those borrowings have been debited.

This outstanding fact of natural law must be borne in mind in considering those principles as applied to the mechanics of the universal wave which produces the octave wave tones of the elements of matter with such precision that any effect produced by any of them in combination, or separately, will produce that same effect always.

Probably makes little sense - see, it is difficult to correlate Walter Russell's description with modern terminology and understanding.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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barbosi

Quote from: Grumpy on February 23, 2007, 09:50:19 AM
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Here is a quote from Walter Russell's book "The Secret of Light", pg 260:

QuoteNo matter what instrument produces  octave tones, it's frequencies and other dimensions must be in the orderliness demanded by the opening and closing spiral pairs which control those tones by conditioning them.  Likewise, no matter what instrument, wether larynx of man, string of violin, carbon wave field or color spectrum, its sole motivating power for producing change of dimension for the purpose of producing change of tone is electric pressure directed by desire and borrowed from the keynote of the octaves stillness.  Furthermore, all power thus borrowed for one expression in any octave tone must be in balance with the opposite of that tone within which those borrowings have been debited.

This outstanding fact of natural law must be borne in mind in considering those principles as applied to the mechanics of the universal wave which produces the octave wave tones of the elements of matter with such precision that any effect produced by any of them in combination, or separately, will produce that same effect always.

Probably makes little sense - see, it is difficult to correlate Walter Russell's description with modern terminology and understanding.

Thanks for the first book. It will take a while to mull things over...
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Excelent lecture!


While I hope this book to help understand, do you have the second one you mentioned? You'll never know, after finishing the current book, I might be wiser and capable to make sense with the second one.
I freed my mind alright, so the only think I feel, I'm dumb. But I try!
When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.