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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Grumpy

QuoteGrumpy,

Centripetal motion (EMF) gives birth to centrifugal (BEMF)!  BEMF is Centrifugal, you cannot have centrifugal motion without centripetal.  If you do come up with a way you will be the first!  Instead of trying to get BEMF alone we should concentrate on the relationship EMF has to BEMF, and how they are used to produce implosion. 


I know.  This was a trick question.  However, I am not convinced that BEMF could not exist without being initiated by and EMF.  They are just opposites of each other.

"A centripetal force is that by which bodies are drawn or impelled, or any way tend, towards a point as to a center."

So, centripetal comes together or toward a center point.  Centrifugal flows apart or away from a center point.

QuoteViktor Schauberger's saucer models incorporated a vortex in which air entered at the top and flowed right through the center of the saucer. Schauberger's vortex was an open system. A whirlpool or tornado or hurricane are examples of the kind of vortex upon which Schauberger's ideas are based. There are two directions of vortex movement, centripetal or inward moving vortex and centrifugal or outward moving vortex. Centripetally moving, that is inwardly moving spiraling air or water, takes up less space and is cooled by this motion according to Schauberger (1). The example we see in daily life is the motion of water in a toilet after flushing. He called this centripetal movement "implosion". Implosion was always accompanied by explosion as the fluid expanded again in an outward, centrifugal spiral. The process is first centripetal then centrifugal. The form this vortex took is really dictated by function according to Schauberger. The "function" is the energy flow. The spiral vortex is the shape the energy flow takes in its movement (2). Energy flows in at the top of the vortex in the characteristic double-spiral manner. These air molecules are imploded, that is, they are made more dense and they yield heat as they progress (3). Air molecules are squeezed tighter and tighter together as they move down the vortex until the sub-atomic particles themselves become unglued transforming into new and unrecognized forms of energy (4). As the vortex itself decreases in diameter implosion and speed are increased until they reach the point within the vortex where centripetal forces stop and centrifugal forces take over.

A field, wether it is refered to as a potential or a vector is still a field.  Calling it a vector implies that it has a direction and magnitude.  Calling it a potential implies only magnitude.  Calling it a field implies neither and both at the same time.

I spoke of the "field" in the center and correlated it to modern terms so that others can look it up and get familiar with the idea that there are other "fields" besides the magnetic and electric ones.  Until we all speak the same language, we have only our common language and this is mainstream terminology.



It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Grumpy

Reviewing the works of the following will assist us in the endeavor:

Nikola Tesla
(Self explanatory) Erfinder listed 4 patents to study which were posted earlier in this thread.

Victor Schauberger
I have the following book: "Living Energies: Exposition of Concepts Viktor Schauberger" by Callum Coats

Karl Schappeller (also spelled Carl) See attached file (in German) and link below (English):
Cyril Davson's Book on Karl Schappeller "The Physics of the Primary State of Matter"
http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/patrickkelly/Davson.pdf  (this is a 46 meg file!!!)

Walter Russell
I have "The Secret of Light" and "A New Concept of the Universe".

John W. Keely
I had "Universal Laws Never Before Revealed: Keely's Secrets ? Understanding and Using the Science of Sympathetic Vibration" by Dale Pond - need to get another copy.
EDIT: Sources of info on Keely:
http://www.frank.germano.com/svp.htm
(see "References" section at end of page)


EDIT:
Attached image of the "fields" of a toroidal ring to give a better idea of where they are at.  The aluminum core of the ring will effect this field as Erfeinder mentioned previously.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Grumpy

second of the three books that I mentioned last week:
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Grumpy

Third of the three books that I mentioned last week:
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

allcanadian

I think I understand the circuit erfinder proposed, as I have read every Tesla article I can get my hands on , as well as schauberger.
  As Tesla proposed there must be a transformation of energy, Emf to Bemf, Low potential to high potential-returned to source, my problem is the relationship between the stator coil fields and the magnetic ring, I think it is inward flow.
  The larger problem, is perspective and equivalence, I don't have a mechanical analogy for a magnetic field, one example is erfinder solved one of my questions regarding Bemf, Bemf is equivalent(loosely) to cavitation- a gas, because emf is like a fluid.
So I am compiling a list of equivalents, I would like you guys to comment on , so we all understand this better. I will assume there are (+), (-) and Neutral components to every energy state, just in case.

(+)Emf-fluid-creates heat-resists motion
(-)Emf- fluid-
(N)Emf-
(+)Bemf-gas-cold-High potential-cavitation-increased motion
(-)Bemf-gas-cold-high potential-cavitation
(N)Bemf
open magnetic field-
closed magnetic field-vacuum?
open electric field-
Closed electric field-

Well, there's my problem, I don't know anything.
I'll have to think about this more.
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