Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[barbosi]

Charlie,

Sharing your experience with quarter wavelength and half wavelength resonators is a great thing. Now it starts to make sense although not completely, about 28 pulses per cycle, aka 3 pulses between two voids in the magnet. All the time I was asking myself why 3? why not 5? or 1? Now it opens a field for reflection and I thank you for that.

Now few questions meant to prove we often stop short by asking questions. And I consider the value of this topic being exactly the oportunity of asking ourselves questions and to debate. Of course we all have our blunders - Errare Humanum Est, but I personaly I cannot stop asking myself. And often I ask for help.

You said:

They are like rings, they have no beginning and no end, they simply circle in constant motion.  We give them labels such as "north pole" and "south pole" and "void" but they are really just a single entity - I call it kinetic energy.

I could agree about giving labels, but you do not explain what is energy. I'm not aware of anyone explaining what it is, but rather giving the notticeable efects of energy [not the cause]. The most notorious ones are maybe kinetic and potential energy. But this is when you are an observer in vicinity of manifesting energy. Imagine you are on planet Pluto and still can see the "manifesting energy" on Earth. How would you consider it now that the reference changed? kinetic? potential? any other?

They are the kinetic side of the universe (the electric field is the potential side and matter is what flows between them).

And what might be the other side of universe? Arethere only two sides, or there are more? How many we can identify with our perception in our reality and how many we don't?

God placed energy into this universe, and this energy swings back and forth like a pendulum without friction.

At least we perceive two movements of pendulum created by (as we have been thought) potential/gravitational energy and kinetic energy. How about a torsion pendulum? What energies are involved? Is there the void (the spot where centrifugal and centripetal energies void eachother)? Is there a moment in the local referential system where stillnes can be noticed? Why at that moment of stillness there is the maximum stress (potential/pressure)?

I gave these examples because somehow I sense you feel you answered questions and nobody was paying attention. I think many have greater questions than I have. I'm all ears to hear what are those questions, do I have a clue?
Anyway, between answers to "where are we coming from?" and "where are we going to?" there might be answers with more practical use which might lead to a contraption to keep your fridge off the grid. It would be sad if it remains unknown the source of our vicious ambition. The cause of all effects.

Best regards.

[allcanadian]

No offence but I think you guys have lost track of what erfinder is saying.
Let's go back to our basic premise of motion, which is flawed.
You believe in perpetual motion and free energy? I do to, but not like you
---- Physics tells us the electron(-) spins around the proton(+) and neutron, this is matter, atoms form molecules, molecules form tangible things we can see. So if the basis of that which everything is made of is moving, then everything is in perpetual motion is it not? This motion is energy and is free if you can harness it, so you(your body-it's atoms) and everything around you for a billion light years is moving to some extent.As well as the various fields, which must move as well, the only time I can see them not moving is when there speed and direction are the same, relatively speaking.

Our basic understanding is flawed as well, here is a simple example.
We have a fan that is pushing air in one direction, it produces a pressure in front of the blades to do this. It must also produce a suction as well behind the fan, so where does the suction end and the pressure begin exactly? At some point the suction transformes into pressure-it's opposite, this point of neutrality is neither pressure nor suction so what is it? a void
So has motion stopped at this point where suction ends and pressure begins? No -the air is still moving forward, from the suction-through a neutral point(void)- to the pressure region.So the air never stopped moving but transitioned from suction to pressure(it's opposite), so if I could pinpoint the exact position of this void could I use it?

What about this rythmic exchange erfinder is talking about?
So what happens when our fan starts and stops suddenly? A suction-a void-and a pressure are created, then when the fan blades stop does the motion stop? No , the air keeps moving forward it has energy, a suction behind the flow- a pressure in front of it-therefore somewhere inbetween there must be neither suction nor pressure, a point of neutrality(a void), all moving forward.
So what would happen if the fan started again, a pressure created in front of the fan----but this pressure region was very near the suction region that just left a second ago.So we have a rising pressure region behind a moving suction region, a double whammy. The pressure drawn to the suction(it's opposite)through another point of neutrality(void) between the two.

So how does this apply to the machine erfinder proposes?
From above we should understand that, everything has a point of neutrality-a void, which seperates that which are opposite(ie voltage,charges,pressure). We should also understand that opposites attract, but the opposites do not need to come from the same source.
We have a closed magnetic ring with eight voids, voids seperating the polarities that is all, there is no magic here. If a coil pulses a magnetic north into the void what happens? It will seek it's nearest opposite, the closest south pole in the magnetic ring. But the magnetic ring is just that(a ring, a loop) so any change in one part must effect the whole.
Can you have pressure without suction? No  , Can the coils field be drawn into the ring without pulling from somewhere else? No, it must form a loop. So we have a permenant magnet loop and a loop of coils, all interacting. One coils field enters the ring then leaves with the same energy as it must, but because it entered it changed the whole dynamic of the ring. The coils field entering the ring could be like ringing a bell, the vibration circling the ring always being added to as resonance, the diamagnetic Al core repelling a changing magnetic field, which means it must attract somewhere. When you ring a bell does it stop immediately? No 
The only requirement for generating current is a changing magnetic field not work persay, so with the insane amount of interaction going on, (and it is mind boggling) I think this machine could fly, not literally.
This is a slow process but I think the fog is slowly thinning, the similarities between this process and Victor schaubergers are too blatant to ignore. That is reciprocal or rythmic motion and transformation.
Hey erfinder Victor.S mentions "quality" relative to water and air, I take this to mean it's energy state, it's potential charge, temperature, gas/mineral content relative to everthing else. But this quality magnetic field concept eludes me, I can only guess that it would be an opposite, that the Bemf magnetic field is different, maybe the collapse can push as it pulls.?

[tao]

Erfinder,

I am not asking you to give a detailed comment on the device below.

I just want you to look at it and let me know if 'based on the way you SEE things', could it work?

Don't worry, I'm not trying to jump ahead, I want to KNOW before I build!, but I was just always curious about this device.

Thanks

[barbosi]

... the Perpetual Motion Holder!  Study it, and see this persons short comings!  Leedskalnin connected the coils of his ring to a car battery for about 2 seconds (and that's it just 2 seconds!!!), and produced a magnetic force which could hold 30 lbs.  1 battery, 2 coils 1 bar bent into a U shape with a removable cross bar.  Simply amazing!  Not only this but he demonstrated that he could get the electricity back out!!!!!!!
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Erfinder, there is something I would like to ask about Perpetual Motion Holder: Leedskalnin suggested the coils to be wrapped on brass or aluminum spools. All replications I could find were using aluminum. Are these materials relevant?

[Maximumgravity1]

All replications I could find were using aluminum. Are these materials relevant?

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/emery.htm
This guy replicated the experiment with a steel bar, aluminum spools, and various gauged wires.  Not to be a wise-acre, but I would say this is proof of concept, and that the materials are not relevant.

Of interest from this article is Leedskanlin's book:

From Leedskalnins' Mineral, Vegetable and Animal life treatise:

"If the perpetual motion holder's North pole prong is put East. South pole pointing West, and then elevate the cross-bar's center up to tilt the South pole vertically hanging magnet, then the magnet will swing South and when the cross-bar's center is elevated up to North pole vertically hanging magnet, then the magnet will swing North.

The cross-bar's ability to swing the North and South pole magnets off its center will remain as long as the cross-bar is not disturbed. It has little power but it could be made stronger by making bigger dimensions.

From the above experiment you can see the perpetual motion holder can act as a living thing. It knows which way to swing each magnet. This shows if more magnets are added to a living thing then it can perform things it could not do before.