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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Maximumgravity1

Only a few moments for lunch, I will read through this again later, but off the cuff....

"The general object of my present invention is to secure artificially a difference of a quarterof phase between the currents in the two energizing-circuits of an alternating-current electro-magnetic motor of that general class invented by me..." (L11-16)

So although what you may be true, the assumption to use AC was established by Tesla.

allcanadian

@maximumgravity1
That is my point exactly, when tesla says "alternating-current electro-magnetic motor ", he means the current is alternating or changing polarity.
So we all assume he uses a sinusodal wave input, but I can use a short duration DC impulse at the input and still alternate it's polarity, so it is still "alternating current". In the secondaries as well, If I have an oscillating electrostatic current that changes polarity at any given interval, is it not "alternating" current"?
Here's an even better one, If I were to input a single short duration positive impulse from my source into the primary, and the secondary electrostatic current alternated through one cycle returning a negative charging impulse to the source, is this not an "alternating current".
It's all about perspective and assumptions--- we assume too much, we presume to understand a motor no one has.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

bocas

In Tesla's patent 512340 you can see how tesla removed the capacitor from the inductors.

samebarbosi

Hi it's barbosi here, I've messet up with my account few days ago and it seems Stefan didn't read emails I've sent to help me restore my old account. Until then...

I agree with the AC over impulses debate as I expressing my concern in a previous comment. It's Tesla using in his patent the term "impulse" - lines 94 and 97.

Also in a previous comment that vanished with that server failure, I was commenting about the coils sen as capacitors. At that time I said, and I hope I recall in the same terms, that "capacitance is the property of a body to hold charge". It was as a reflection upon some reading at that time. Thus, a Tesla coil could be seen as capacitance, [generating and] holding electrostatic charge.

About the circuit:
I see now how we over-complicated a simple design (simple as layout, not as idea).
Coils E, F and G make all together a transformer (with 2 secondaries). In fact being said each E coil with its secondary is a Tesla coil, what is still different from what we know? The secondary connections are not tied to ground and to that "ball". They are tied in series to accumulate electrostatic charge. Adding electrostatic field. Now one connection, with the HV (that one with the ball) is connected to capacitor. The other one, Instead to be connected to ground is used as the "sweet spot". Because the coils F and G are alternated and considering the winding direction, it is generated the second electrostatic charge but with different direction of the field. All referenced to the sweet spot. All charges from the coils G are added as field and applied to the other terminal of capacitor.

It all makes more sense if the whole thing is fed with impulses at the primary.
The equivalent circuit is as bellow, showing the Tesla coil building charge into capacitor. Charlie's representation with capacitors (in a previous post) has the advantage to show (mainstream format) how charge is added up to capacitor.

However, there is something I'd like to reconsider from my previous postings. If there is a void, that has to be in capacitor.
I could say also the whole secondary circuit is a capacitor , but I have trouble to explain its terminals and how occurs the charge exchange.

Charlie_V

After reading allcanadian's earlier post, it does seem that Erfinder was talking about an impulse current.  However, a DC impulse IS alternating current.  Its the same thing, whether it goes from positive 100 volts to zero, or if it goes from positive 50 to negative 50, they are all the same.   

The only part of this entire thing that I see is different (from what is normally done) is the fact that the secondary resistance (impedance) is made to NOT match the primary.  I think this is where some of the good stuff comes. 

Getting back to impulses, what could this achieve?  Have you guys ever heard of a "water hammer"?  It's a mechanical effect where you get water in a pipe running then you shut a valve real fast.  It produces a really large force against the valve like a hammer.  You can build long lasting water pumps using this effect.  Interestingly enough, I have never heard of an electrical analog to this.  But I'm sure that if you got a large electrical current flowing in a wire then broke the connection, you could get something very similar.  Perhaps this is where the other half of the goodness comes from? 

I'm trying to keep things real simple right now, I have a head ache lol.