Magnet Motor that works

[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi Gyulasun,

That last video is exactly what I had setup but I used rectangle magnets almost touching each other at the ends. It generated a rounded pulse. What is also a neat effect is passing the ring over the coil from left to right will also generate the pulse so the coil doesn't have to pass through the ring. Lenz is more noticeable in that instance though but an interesting effect.

Hi Webby,

One of the things I was trying for was more of a transistor effect for the core and that worked very well, dropping my input substantially and maintaining around 50 RPM using about .08ma @ 12V to 24V, at 12V it was about 30 RPM.  Franken Motor is close to 27 inches in diameter.

That sounds pretty cool.

One of the concepts I had was to only control the flux path allowed in the core, the other was that the single poles facing each other within the holders would create a virtual pole that the coil could draw straight into and repel straight out of without hitting the actual permanent magnets.

I wonder if tilting the magnets so they focus outside the ring would work or if it would just kill the effect of virtual pole? Tilt maybe 5 to 15 degrees so they all point at a single point.

[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi Gyulasun,

I made this quick test of the ring waveform. The original ring I made was dismantled so I tried the failed spiral track which shows a similar waveform. I'd have to rebuild the ring from before to allow passing the coil through the center. The coil was salvaged from a fish tank bubbler. There is no load on the coil to show the waveform. Back and forth produces just as much as up and down which leads me to wonder if the magnets can be slightly titled to push the field more external to the ring? I guess more testing is needed to see if that would work or not.

[gyulasun]

Hi DreamThinkBuild,

It is very kind of you to do these tests, thanks for your efforts. I also did a simple test in the past to see for myself the waveform Naudin showed on the right-hand side in his scope shot ( http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/magconfig.gif ) because earlier I never positioned a solenoid coil tangentially to the circle shaped rotor of a pulse motor. And my simply handwaving any one pole of a rod magnet at the side of a multiturn solenoid coil confirmed the waveform indeed (Naudin called it as an assymetrical waveform), however I do not agree with him in that the positive peak in the middle part is generated by the collapsing field and not by the moving magnet... I think the full part of the waveform is caused by the moving magnet in this setup. (here is Naudin's page where he wrote about this: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mromexp.htm )

You wrote: "Back and forth produces just as much as up and down which leads me to wonder if the magnets can be slightly titled to push the field more external to the ring? I guess more testing is needed to see if that would work or not."
Yes with my 'handwaving' the rod magnet, I also noticed the polarity change you found as just as much as up and down and what you suggest on the slight tilting of the magnets sounds as good idea to 'press' out more juice. My only concern is Lenz drag may also increase...

It is interesting that recently such coil positionings have appeared again and called as low Lenz generators on youtube. It is good that the single magnet poles embrace the solenoid coil in a ring shape arrangement (I refer to the youtube links I gave in my previous post) because the coil's flux can be utilized more effectively in the near space all around and not at the coil ends only as most other setups do. However I am not yet convinced that such setups inherently Lenz free, maybe they have a less Lenz drag than other setups. There is the lack of correct measurements, unfortunately.

Would like to refer to a video ( http://www.general-files.com/go/147592130300 ) where a tangentionally positioned big solenoid coil is used and the waveform across it is shown during operation when it has only an air core and then with a iron core. When Bedini inserts the iron core, the induced positive peak (seen between the rectangular pulses as I indicate with an arrow below) increases from about 2V peak to about 5-6V peak voltage. There is another variant of this setup and it is shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TICXxP1jI4  Unfortunately, he has not started any discussion on these setups, nor he has shown any measurements output-power-wise on those setups.

rgds,  Gyula

[gotoluc]

Here is an interesting one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVFcDOkQm2E

Luc

[stprue]

This guy has an interesting youtube channel.  Most of the unique devices that appear to be legit are found there.  This one looks easy enough to replicate, but i would like some more info first.