Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

[synchro1]

@Milehigh,
                  Another miserable homework assignment huh?  Here's one for you: Whats a spark?

[MileHigh]

Synchro1:

Busted!  lol

It's like Bioshock Infinity a la Tesla!

Get your protein pills and keep your helmet on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBOtpwOZSFk

MileHigh

[Farmhand]

I got your point - but if the windings are almost 90 degrees to your sum flux direction - there wont be an induction phenomenen in the wire - and there should be pretty no contribution to the overall inductivity.
The contribution to overall inductivity would increase if you change the inclination of your windings from 90 degrees towards 45 degrees in  relation to your sum flux / rotational axis.
As long as you don´t exceed flux saturation in your ferro magnetic wire - you will observe increased inductivity - if you saturate the wire, inductivity will fall back to normal - and there will be iron losses in the wire.

rgds.

Hi Fritz, I think i get it now, and it seems basic logic so it makes sense to me. Thank you very much for explaining that in that way. Much appreciated.

So to carry the thinking further to a different situation. If I was to wind an air core steel wire coil, then if I insert a smaller steel coil inside it with the coil terminals open, the inserted coil would not act as core because the turns are in the same plane as the main coil. It would simply act as an open secondary ?

Alternatively if I was to wind a steel coil that was long loops of turns and placed that inside the main coil so the windings were at 90 degrees it would not act as a secondary but as a core, the inserted coil would develop no emf but would support or engage the magnetic flux.

So the in between case would be a steel wire coil with the windings done in a 45 degree cross hatched pattern, ie. one layer at 45 degrees  to vertical from 0 degrees to 180 degrees circumference wise, then progressive layers of 45 degree windings around the coil circumference in 90 degree progressions. Just as a thought experiment such a winding with steel wire should do both, or if two coils wound as such so that one could fit inside the other then the inserted one would act as a coil and a core, it must and the individual coils would also act as coils and cores as long as there was some angle between enough windings within the coil.

Cheers

[gyulasun]

Milehigh just stated there was no comparison between the magnets! The  serial bifilar pancake projects a directional electromagnetic pulse that's focused.  This allows it to broadcast and recieve it's own power, as well as align electron spin. The current electromagnet is merely an modern improvement. All the fundamental forces are at work in those counter facing pancakes. They jolt a field into the scrap first, then produce a low level cling current. You can spark the sigle wire nail wrap all you want, you will never get the kind of impulse magnetization effect the SBC delivers.

Synchro1:

I have asked you to to change your behaviour but you try to defend your 'brainchilds' with fire and iron, however you do not show any proof.  Words you desperatly keep repeating or you search on the net for pancake etc and quote others' words on them are not proof.

You showed pictures of some components but you did not show measurements to prove what you claim with those components.
I already also asked you to show the current drop to zero you claim to happen above a certain rpm in your setup. What 'secret' would you lose if you showed it??  Just an Ammeter hooked up to your setup, is that too problematic? Can you rebuild your setup again to have a second identically behaving setup?

When your attitude change to the better, I will pay attention again.

Gyula

[gyulasun]

I want to correct a mistake that I made:

MH:  okay, no problem.

Gyula