Big try at gravity wheel

[minnie]

  MarkE,
           I was just trying to get across how much water can be moved on the level
    with 20kw. Hook one of those pumps up to a ZED and heaven knows what it'd
     do.
         John.

[MarkE]

Minnie, I saw that, and I fully agree.  20kW in a stream of water would make one heck of a fountain.  Even if the basic physics of lifting and dropping weights allowed for some energy gain, when the fact is that it does not, the big machine shown by HER would have to move heavy weights furiously in order to output 20kW.  The lazy back and forth tottering of the machine shown by HER would never come close.

[Marsing]

surprise   ....
       stored energy curve  is not linear

[MarkE]

Marsing, hopefully webby will see it now.

[powercat]

Why do you keep avoiding the issue?

If your claims and "measurements" are correct you should be able _easily_  to put together a "self runner" or at least some demonstration that you get more _work_ out than you put in. Why don't you do that simple thing? Here's a hint: Travis has a "simple, three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself." Why don't you show that system producing its "clear overunity by itself"?

I know why, and so do you. In spite of your large monetary award from Travis... you are all out of tennis ball packaging tubes.

Yes, if it was true why after all this time has he done nothing, especially since he gives the impression that he discovered something unique, never discovered before, in fact he was so excited by his discovery he later started investigating other methods of OU, as anyone can see by his old post, it looks like he had forgotten about his remarkable discovery until Red_sunset and Wayne Travesty made a reappearance in this thread.