Big try at gravity wheel

[MileHigh]

I would like to say that in my opinion the ball still is in Webby's court to go through a complete cycle step by step and show a gain in energy.  I think we are approaching the two week point since the request was made.

I honestly don't think Webby is capable of doing it, nor is he capable of admitting that he can't do it.  This is not an uncommon thing on the free energy forums.  For example, if you went to the most ardent UFOpolitics enthusiast and asked them to draw up performance curves for their modified motor you would probably get blank stares and no acknowledgement of the request.

So that's it.  You might get some sermons/brainwashing attempts from Wayne or Red_Sunset with absolutely zero informational content or some more protests from Webby, but that's it.

As far as I am concerned the Doomsday Clock may as well start now.  We might hear about Wayne getting into legal problems or one day the plugs will be pulled from the web sites and the whole thing will vanish into thin air never to be heard from again.

So, to use an apropos metaphor, Wayne and his company are circling around the drain.

MileHigh

[TinselKoala]

But before we have been told that the OU comes from the two Zeds acting together.

But never mind that. If they must be treated as "separate systems" then there must be a way... as Travis himself said ... that a single system could be overunity by itself. Otherwise, there is no way to chain two identical "underunity" systems together to produce "overunity" output... since efficiencies multiply, they do not add.

So that "simplifies" things for you, Webby. Just show how a single system can be clearly overunity, by itself.

[minnie]

    Webby,
             how often has it been asked of the three of you to show a three layer system that
   is clearly o.u. by itself?
        Unless you feed the thing with energy nothing happens
   I'll be over the moon if you can do it and you'll be world famous to boot!
                John.

[minnie]

    Webby,
              are you thinking of using something like a compound steam engine, only in
        reverse, as a transfer pump?
                             John.

[MarkE]

MarkE,

Lots of words but you did not answer the question.

Why did you not answer the question? let me try a different twist on the question,  Why do you keep the 2 cylinders locked together as a single system.  Why can you not treat them as 2 independent systems,, that is what they are.

This I think is the crux of the issue,, until you can see that these are separate systems able to operate by themselves you will not be able to move forward.

Webby, the configuration is as you drew in your first sketch.  They include the transfer pump that you later specified.  There is the total "air" volume of 5.0364cc that results from the geometry that you specified.

The crux of the problem is that you are in complete denial as to the physical reality of the scheme that you proposed.  This is why despite your protests we do not see any new drawings from you that show something different that could supposedly work as "two independent systems".  The moment that you drew your first sketch you established the dependency of the one, the only air charge that each half would depend upon during different states of the cycle.  You seem to be perhaps one of the few people in the world who does not comprehend your own proposal.

Again:  Be my guest.  Show this independence that you claim.  Here is your Feb. 3 sketch again.  Go have at it.  Show how you can pump "air" from the right hand cylinder with the insert to the left hand cylinder with the insert without losing the approximately 50% stored energy that I have proven.  In particular kindly show how much and where energy is stored in the system at the point in the cycle when the meniscus under each cylinder are at the same height.