Big try at gravity wheel

[minnie]

  Hi,
      reply 1295, not much to show for all those years and engineers mrwayne?
  Empty building, plexiglas tubes, two syringes and coloured water. No wonder
  you had trouble sleeping!
      How about claiming the Overunity.com prize? One watt shouldn't  be too
   hard?
           John.

[powercat]

Mr Red_herring, here are some words for you from Wayne travesty in the first thread.

Quote from: mrwayne on May 28, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
I always keep my word, and I tell the truth even when it hurts
Quote from: mrwayne on May 25, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
I promise, you who wish open sourcing will not be disappointed.
Quote from: mrwayne on June 02, 2012, 06:47:33 AM
We will be releasing to scientific journals and presenting the Data professionally, when Marks Group reccomends.
I look forward to the longevity runs as well, Next weekend is when we have the help to set up the new
plc equipment and software.
Quote from: mrwayne on June 10, 2012, 04:40:37 AM
Mark Dansie has assembled the team for our Extended runs - critical review
Quote from: mrwayne on June 24, 2012, 03:40:11 PM
We will run our pre test runs starting Monday - after we are sure we do not have new clogs
- I call Mark and he will come - the 28 is still our goal.
Quote from: mrwayne on June 27, 2012, 05:16:19 AM
Mark will come as soon as I ask - he is ready too.But I have not asked him to come yet, I might after tommorrows Run.
Quote from: mrwayne on June 30, 2012, 02:27:28 PM
We began running pretrial tests - prior to Mark Dansie's return - I had very much hoped to be done by Wednesday.
Quote from: mrwayne on July 27, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
After this Validation testing and presentation - we will be setting down to a coalition of teams
world wide to bring this technology to the world
Quote from: mrwayne on August 13, 2012, 02:55:02 PM
Mark has set his return for the week of the 20th.
Quote from: mrwayne on August 16, 2012, 03:41:48 PM
We are solving current issues for Mark and the rest of the team's next visit
Quote from: mrwayne on August 25, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
No, I am not sharing run Data with aynone, until we have the system ready to be released
Quote from: mrwayne on August 25, 2012, 10:43:58 PM
Marks third return was delayed because our "new" system would not charge the accumulator
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Quote from: markdansie on August 27, 2012, 05:05:15 AM
I still have not seen the two day demo yet , but I never put a time frame on this.
However as with all things as time carries on the confidence level always diminishes.

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Quote from: mrwayne on August 29, 2012, 07:14:45 PM
Our OU is not and has not been the question - simple phisics can show it over and over
Quote from: mrwayne on September 28, 2012, 02:42:16 PM
p.s. our optimized system is over 600% efficient.
Quote from: mrwayne on September 28, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
It will all begin in a short time - the validation is just around the corner - I am relieved and excited.
Quote from: mrwayne on October 1 2012 on his web site
We expect to be finished by the end of the week - assuming all goes semi well (parts delivery)
and we will be ready for the Validation!
Quote from: mrwayne on October 15 2012 on his web site
Of course this means we will run a couple days for ourselves before we turn it over to the validation team
- I have been in clear and constant communication with them.
Quote from: mrwayne on October 29 2012 on his web site
I spoke with Mark this morning regarding time lines, and travel arrangements
- we have selected a prevalidation member to come this weekend
Quote from: mrwayne on November 6 2012 on his web site
Do you feel a sense of urgency in our Development?
Have you waited long enough, are you ready to be done with all of the improvements and obstacles,
are you ready for the internal Validation, and the external validation?
Me too.
Quote from: mrwayne on November 11, 2012, 04:07:58 PM
Mark is not a member of the "Final Validation team" - so do not make assumptions - Mark has arranged a completly
independant and extremely qualified Validation team.
Quote from: mrwayne on November 22, 2012, 04:22:19 AM
Yes,And thank you.Mark is a valuable part of our efforts.In Mark and mine's last conversation -
just prior to his heading off on his honeymoon - He has two other stops to make and then we
both hope we are ready for him to return her to Chickasha Oklahoma again. Will we be ready?
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And you dare to talk of honor Red_herring you're nothing but a con man's puppet.

[Red_Sunset]

  Hi,
      reply 1295, not much to show for all those years and engineers mrwayne?
  Empty building, plexiglas tubes, two syringes and coloured water. No wonder
  you had trouble sleeping!
      How about claiming the Overunity.com prize? One watt shouldn't  be too
   hard?
           John.

John,   Do you feel better now ?  why not give one more kick, for good measure and more satisfaction !
           
Is that your natural behavior ?

Red

[MarkE]

Gentlemen,

Unbelievable, 4++ pages of dribble,
NO "yes/no" acknowledgements of agreement as yet to a the start baseline set forth in a post a few weeks ago.
It looks like, nobody is prepared to put themselves behind their words.

If you have disagreement about the baseline, I am prepared to accept possible modifications to the start baseline.

If any of you have some honor,  start spitting something more worthwhile.

Red_Sunset

PS:  the reason for a baseline is to allow some control on the deviations during discussions and so ensure minimal disturbing side tracking.
The discussion is about technical principles that underpins the ZED and NOT about Wayne or what he has or doesn't have, neither about the construction of the ZED.

Red_Sunset you can at anytime attempt to prove your claims.  All you have done so far is like Wayne:  wave your arms around.  Critics do not keep you from proving your false claims.  Reality does.

[MarkE]

Mr Red herring, here are some words for you from Wayne travesty in the first thread.

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Quote from: mrwayne on August 29, 2012, 07:14:45 PM
Our OU is not and has not been the question - simple phisics(SIC) can show it over and over

Quote from: mrwayne on September 28, 2012, 02:42:16 PM
p.s. our optimized system is over 600% efficient.

OK kids:  Assuming for a moment that over unity in any system were possible, what would be the possible efficiency values?
Answer:  0-100%, and indefinite.  Net efficiency is net output over net input.  At 100% and greater efficiency, the net input is therefore zero.  X/0 = indefinite.  If one were to have a machine that supposedly put out 6X what went into it, 1X output reroutes to the input and now there is this 5X the original input coming out for zero input.  It is meaningless to talk about percentage gains of machines that do not consume net input.  The only meaningful values of such a hypothetical apparatus are the: continuous output power, volume, weight, cost, etc.