Big try at gravity wheel

[TinselKoala]

Mr. Peiman

Allow me to suggest that you include a heavy Penalty Clause in your contract with honest Wayne Travis. That is, should you, for any reason other than your own failure to appear, NOT be shown what is promised, you should be compensated for wasting your time. Clearly your travel expenses and per diem expenses should be covered, along with a "fine" of sorts for Travis's failure to perform as stated.

It doesn't work today because of a leak, but will be fixed by next week (after you've left)? OK, fine the penalty clause kicks in. It sort of works, like the first Dansie visit, but can't be proven to run itself for two days straight? Fine.... penalty time.

You will find, as I have, that such a clause does wonders for separating the "wheat" from the "chaff" as it were.

Cheers---
The poster known here exclusively as TinselKoala

[mrwayne]

Mr.Travis.
Thank you for replying.
Ultimately, explanations of HOW something works can be done after the something is clearly shown to work.
So, the first question is: when will a public demonstration take place, clearly showing a measurable energy gain of energy over a sufficiently large time? With the investigators having full access for the purpose of ruling out hidden sources of energy.
As to "That assumption also lent to the belief that a black box would be proof - and a closed loop would be proof." What basis do you have for not accepting the assumption? What alternative 'proof' do you have?
You have left undefined terms in you response: when 'cost' is mentioned, what type of cost are you referring to? Monetary, energy, something else?
Using undefined words/terms causes incomplete communication.
BTW, I am quite willing to do a validation of the ZED; whether you consider me qualified is up to you.
I would be willing to sign a NDA, not disclosing or using your process, but have the complete freedom to publicize the test and it's result.
Thank you.
Bill Peiman

Thank You again.

I completely understand; and Yes also language and definition has always been a hindrance.

We will not be publicizing our test results until the Public release of our Manufactured models - which are currently scheduled to roll out in October 2015.

On the other hand, I have had an open door policy - it does require a NDA primarily not to discuss our partners, our process, or improvements, or our business plans.

We are not applying for a OU prize, and we are not soliciting investment. We are building our company and making  international partnerships.

To be clear - the public release is the absolute right of our founder, and part of our roll out - not of speculated ability - but consumer ready systems.

It is not a question of does our system work - here at Zydro.

Regarding what you can share.

Personal opinions are fine. As that has been explained to all visitors.

with that understanding; If your purpose is to understand the discover - You are invited as a guest.

I will take the time to explain and show, answer questions, and introduce you to one or more of our engineers for more questions.

I will also allow you the hands on opportunity - with our replication models - eye opening....

The Rotary Taz is off limits, but the method of finding interruptions to a conservative process will be shared - it is the most important of our discoveries.

Now: all that being said - Visitors usually pay their own flights - or drive - but for you - I will make this promise:

If you chose to come and learn, and have the freedom to report your opinion: If our system does not prove mathematically - your own math is fine - or ours - I will refund your flight or gas - when you arrive - and at the end you can decide if I kept my word.

P.s. I will pay your hotel regardless for the effort.

One suggestion - it takes on average two days to catch a person up from the basic info shared here.

I know it is not exactly what you desire - it is what is available.

Thanks you again,

You will need to contact Sandy at: mr.wayne@zydroenergy.com to begin the paperwork.

Wayne Travis

[TinselKoala]

Make him put it in writing, Mr. Peiman: Just exactly what will be shown, how it proves or demonstrates more energy out than in, when and for how long, and don't forget the penalty clause.

[memoryman]

TK, I respect the technical abilities of you, Mark D, MH, Mark E. even with >50 years of electronic experience of my own.
I am also a moderator on revolution-green and am an advocate of 'show me the data'.
Whether Mr. Travis is a scammer or just a misguided believer, I do not know. I still treat him with respect, AND call him on any false/misleading statements.
Mr.Travis, I will reply to you later.
Bill Peiman (ngepro)

[TinselKoala]

Let's hope he treats you with respect in return.
Real respect, not the conman's feigned kind. Will he answer your direct questions directly, instead of dodging around them like he continues to dodge Minnie's question about the "5 hp unit"? I hope so, but I won't bet on it.