Big try at gravity wheel

[MarkE]

I call him Shawn McCarthy because that's his legal name.
I looked up his birth certificate years ago.
He was born in Birmingham and his birth was registered in Aylesbury.

I've never seen his BC.  He's going by Shaun at the moment.  If the mood or need arises perhaps he will start calling himself by yet another name.

[tim123]

Steorn have changed their business from supposedly developing magnet motors to supposedly developing geysers.

Lol. But it's revolutionary technology - heating a block of iron with an induction heater - cutting-edge stuff! Sure to be OU.

[MarkE]

Lol. But it's revolutionary technology - heating a block of iron with an induction heater - cutting-edge stuff! Sure to be OU.

Steorn do not claim that it is overunity.  Sterling Allan at PESN claims that it is overunity.  Steorn's pitch is that it is more compact to store heat in a chunk of iron at 500C to 900C than storing water at 40C/60C/100C.  They don't seem to think that there are big drawbacks to storing heat for hot water in burning brands.

[MarkE]

MarkE,
I thought that I did that in the most simplest overview format, with the directive for you to do some homework.

Red_Sunset I have done homework including asking HER directly.

I am going to make it simple for you.
You are putting me into the position of HER, I am not a representative of HER, I have no idea what HER has or is doing in detail. I know nothing about their investment schemes, expected returns, investor relations.  Or how they handle their business, I am quite at a distance. I have never been in Oklahoma state.
At the same time the business execution of a scientific principle does not change the principle. It would be just bad business sense.

If I understand you, you believe that you understand a principle that HER have communicated that allows for their claims to work.  All I have asked is for you to either point to the statement of principle by HER, or in the alternative to describe what you think the principle is.  The furthest that we have gotten is you have made an analogy to a lever with magic properties.

I got interested in his invention learning about it from the forum.  I was guided by Wayne and the OU forum posts and I understood some of the  inventive property they have, within limits as presented by Wayne on the forum.
I think that their concept is clever and can do some nice tricks of which OU would be part of (the milking part). I was quite impressed by it but found it too complex (fiddly) to replicate. So I can not say that I tested it (I DID NOT PROOF IT)

Great, so please describe their clever concept as you understand it or just quote their statement of their concept, or just point to where they have said it with better specificity than buried somewhere in the middle of thousands of forum posts.

You want ot know about HER, then you need to contact Wayne or an associate.OK,
If you want to know the theory , then you need to go to the topic that Wayne (HER) directed. That this requires effort I do understand, I tried to make it simpler for you to provide high level outlines, but that effort was outright rejected.

I am sorry, but there is no external indication that there is a pony in that closet.

I can not control what you do not see or understand or don't believe, maybe you are right and I am wrong, I am even ready to accept that,  but you will need to come up with a more precise argument that can stick. General conservation statements will not do. If they would, I wouldn't be here.

If you reject out of hand that which is observed and hold for that which has not been observed then we may well be at an impasse.  Conservation holds for me in the here and now because it has been tested an uncountable number of times without refute.  If someone comes up with compelling evidence of non-conservative behavior then I am happy to give that evidence a fair look.

As I said, I do not like repeating.

Red_Sunset

[Red_Sunset]

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............................. then I am happy to give that evidence a fair look.

Your Honour,

I rest my case !

Go well, keep looking,  Red_Sunset