Big try at gravity wheel

[Red_Sunset]

Hi RedSunset,
  I have a meccano model I built - pictures posted previously - which, I think, replicates the mechanism of one 'piston' of the machine...

It doesn't seem to show any signs of OU. The forces are still symetrical - as I showed in my previous post. But I could be missing something - and I'd be grateful if anyone could suggest anything that might make it work differently.

After playing around with the mechanism - I can't see any obvious way that it could work... I'm quite mystified by the whole proceedings TBH...

Regards
Tim

Tim,

From my viewpoint, you would have too much tolerance in your meccano model, for it to work.  Also you need to understand the working process before or when building, in that way you can apply corrections to the model to bring it within working range as needed. I can not see how you can build something without understanding it first.

The model doesn't need to be built as shown by Ribeiro, it could adopt different shapes,
The only requirement is,
1.. That weight on the downstroke needs to take advantage of a greater lever arm than the horizontal robervall arm length as measured from the vertical fixed pilar. (a leverage arm is an arm that is fixed for the whole length, or at least responds in that way). In this case this is the horizontal robervall arm + the horizontal part of the triangle and the triangle experiences a fixation to the horizontal part of the robervall arm. 
2.. During upstroke the weight only lever is the horizontal robervall arm. The triangle weight becomes incorporated into the total weight and becomes a synonymous part with the vertical arm of the robervall arm.

So we have two different levers applying torque to the rotation shaft (~ 2-1=1 =left-over).   I would imagine it will need a flywheel  to store intermediate energy for smooth running, because 1/2 cycle (rotation) is 2x power and 1/2 is 1x loss( alike to a combustion engine)

The location / position of the crankshaft has also an importance in the Ribeiro design since the pushrod plays a double role in the downstroke to promote 1-rotation and horizontal lever 2-fixation. For the same reason the initial start-up rotation has to be to my assessment counter clockwise (view as per pictures)

Without making a detailed drawing, it is difficult to explain. I would suggest to be clear on the required principle and then have have a good look at the pictures and ask the investigative questions, why, how, where....ect

That is the best I can suggest

Regards, Red_Sunset

[Red_Sunset]

@@ Red_Sunset

I advise other readers to take anything Red_Sunset  says with a very large grain of salt, Wayne Travis and Red_Sunset  have repeatedly failed to prove in scientific terms that they have a working over-unity devise, let alone how to make one work, their history speaks for itself.

Powercat & Tim and others,

If you think you do not like my mungo jumbo, I have no problem to remove my posts and leave you in peace.
Let me know, I can still use the delete option within 24hrs

I just thought you could use a bit of help on Renato Ribeira.

Let me know soonest

Regards, Red_Sunset

[Grimer]

Powercat & Tim and others,

If you think you do not like my mungo jumbo, I have no problem to remove my posts and leave you in peace.
Let me know, I can still use the delete option within 24hrs

I just thought you could use a bit of help on Renato Ribeira.

Let me know soonest

Regards, Red_Sunset

On no account remove your posts Red Sunset. They make good sense to me.


As Cloud Camper has pointed out on BesslerWheel.com, the Roberval Balance puts strain energy into the balance ties and struts. The beauty of strain energy is that is weighs nothing and one can move it around without it being affected by Newtonian Gravity.


I believe that RAR works. Presumably they will eventually get around to posting up a video of it in action.


I think Stuart Campbell has the right idea about this development.


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That's because my thinking is not stuck in a block of concrete. Logic says it won't work.But there are people out there smart enough to say phooey to that and prove anyone wrong.Science is taught specifically to hold people within a square in their thinking. You are taught to think nothing will work, so you move within your limitations of your self imposed square.It's always those who step outside it who make the waves and the future happen.[/font]

[powercat]

Powercat & Tim and others,

If you think you do not like my mungo jumbo, I have no problem to remove my posts and leave you in peace.
Let me know, I can still use the delete option within 24hrs

I just thought you could use a bit of help on Renato Ribeira.

Let me know soonest

Regards, Red_Sunset

Whether you want to remove your posts or not is entirely your decision, and looking at your previous posting history you will say and do what you want anyway.

[powercat]

That's because my thinking is not stuck in a block of concrete. Logic says it won't work.But there are people out there smart enough to say phooey to that and prove anyone wrong.Science is taught specifically to hold people within a square in their thinking. You are taught to think nothing will work, so you move within your limitations of your self imposed square.It's always those who step outside it who make the waves and the future happen.[/font]

That's a very good approach, and one that most people here would agree with, otherwise why would you join an over-unity forum, but making claims that you can achieve over-unity or you know that it works when you can't prove it is not going to help anyone, and given the energy crisis the world is facing we could really do with a genuine solution that actually works and can be proven to work.