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Overunity Machines Forum



Big try at gravity wheel

Started by nfeijo, May 03, 2013, 10:03:04 AM

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Red_Sunset

Quote from: nfeijo on December 03, 2013, 03:30:13 PM
The Roberval balance.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/roberval.htm

Nfeijo, It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
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minnie

Hi,
    if you want to know about asymmetry ask Wayne Travis-he knows! Good advice from
Sunset somewhere in the past.
   I find this machine intriguing, are those photos for real?
One of the things I don't get in cases like this is the sheer size. A bench top model
would be worth just as much.
   Look at Rossi's megawatt, James Kwok's Hidro, Travis's thingy and the Newman
machine, none of them seem to do anything.
   I was comparing these gravity things to a water wheel but I see one big difference
the water wheel is able to exhaust the water at little cost whereas this machine
would have to halt the drop of the weight then raise it again at considerable cost
            John

Red_Sunset

New view - new pointer/discovery,

I am on the way out, and do have not much time now for more details,  but just a quick one to share.
The working view is changing, I didn't pay much attention to the weights used, expecting this not to be important. What I did observe and found puzzling was why the weight bars were hinged on the extreme left of the photos shown, it was also here, in this area were a lot of changes/modifications were taking place over the past months.

The reason is that the weights are on a balance bar, this balance is disturbed by the the weight lever and some supporting mechanism at a specific time (The weights are mounted telecopic on the bar, so the balance of the bar can be changed.  We can assume that the objective is to have heavy weights in the  downward 1/2 cycle and restoration of balance on the way up 1/2 cycle.
If interested, have a good look there, focus to look is attached. Observe in the drawing that not all bar are the same length, they are telescopic.

Regards, Red_Sunset

Red_Sunset

Having had a chance to have a closer look into the mechanism of the gravity engine, confirmed my initial deduction that the principle working of the engine had no relationship to a Roberval & lever force mechanism as a force differentiator (although the roberval still performs a one sided and characteristic function )  .

The working principle is dependent on the ability of the mechanism to create a near neutral balance weight bar during the upstroke. At top dead center, an imbalance is triggered. The weight beam extends and the counter weight effect is removed by resting on the floor (as seen on the left side in the photo's).
This combined effect applies the total weight as a load to the Roberval and onward to the crankshaft resulting in rotation.
At the bottom dead center, the beam returned to horizontal and the weight beam has shortened to it minimum size by telescopic action, regaining its near balance equilibrium.

This methodology is standard lift & drop of a weight, to create energy by using gravitational force of the weight on the downward stroke, and uses a counter balance to reduce the upward stroke energy.

The system incorporates a trigger mechanism to initiate the sequencing at predetermined points in the cycle.  The photo's show several changes in the design to be able to get the sequencing and efficient working correct.
A good selection of pictures,drawings, patent are provided on the RAR website to supplement understanding.

Regards, Red_Sunset