Big try at gravity wheel

[Red_Sunset]

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.....................truth ...............Only one can be correct. The rest that claim to be correct are in error.

Grimer,
I regret to disagree, for the following reasons,
An OPINION is not a FACT, a persistent FACT become a "TRUTH" until it is proven to be no "persistent" fact any longer

It was frigging cold here a week ago. The temperature had dropped to +4dgrC.
At the same time, in contrast, CNN reported that the cold weather in Chicago had relented to a balmy -6dgrC.
There are many flavors of truth.

Sure if you decide on "one standard" reference, and then use this as your common yard stick. Then you are correct to ONE truth  >> but in context to that yardstick only !!  The way TK is correct in his standard yardstick view.

For sure there will be itemsof truth that becomes indisputable and unchanged and are recognized by many other yardstick references since no one has been able to come up with any good case of evidence to indisputable refute these accepted truth's.
Religion examples: Theft, murder...ect       
Science/physics examples: 1ste, 2de, 3th Law of thermodynamics.

Any of these laws can be refuted (changed, retracted...ect).  An extreme example would be, if your religion is cannibalism, or human sacrifice, murder would be accepted as normal in those circumstances. You can say the same thing about war, is it condoned murder?, I guess it is in specific circumstances (due to a thin borderline between killing and self-defence).   

Notwithstanding that the 1st/2de/3th laws are very correct, I am not convinced that they will remain absolute. In time, they will undergo addendum's.  So their truth will become a shade of gray with the work in "overunity.com"
Look at the Catholic church, they change the divine laws from time to time.  In the past, take certain South African churches, they officially condoned "apartheid" as ordered by god. You are a church member, you follow "blindly" the truth?.   Think about it, can you do an act that in your conscious is wrong but your religion organization says is isn't wrong ?
Do you think that democratic rule is the best solution for all people,  have a look if it does the best for American citizens? 

Truth is relative at any time

Amen, Red_Sunset

[MarkE]

September 2013 - machine complete:
19/10/2013 - Foto Oficial nº 52 - Final da terceira de três etapas
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/

January 2014 - still no video of it running... Why not??? 

Those machines look like they are missing a large and powerful engine to drive them.

[tim123]

Truth is relative at any time

I couldn't disagree more...

1) Temperature:
  10C may be hot to a polar bear, and cold for a gecko, BUT
  water at sea-level *always* boils at 100C - absolutely.

items of truth that becomes indisputable.... Any of these laws can be refuted...

2) Nonsense!
  Gravity didn't 'become indisputable'. It *always* was. Can you refute it?
  Murder didn't 'become' wrong. It *always* was. Can you refute that?
  A definition of LAW: A cause-and-effect which is universal and constant.

Look at the Catholic church, they change the divine laws from time to time.

3) Law: I think you're very confused about what law is - but then people aren't taught it - deliberately...

There's a very big difference between the Laws of God (i.e. physics and morality), and the 'laws' of mankind.

The 'divine law' (canon) of the church is no such thing, it's a (vast) set of ridiculous rules imposed by creepy men in frocks who have an unhealthy interest in children, and who desire to enslave people in ignorance for their own enrichment.

The statute law of your democracy is again - not real law. It is neither constant, nor is it universal. Nor is it lawful.

4) Relativity Vs. Absolute-ity

This is a big debate - and it cuts to the heart of both PHYSICS and MORALITY...

[Grimer]

When might soon be?  Bessler made his claims 300 years ago.  Since then no experiment has reproduced his perpetual motion claims.  John Collins is among those who have tried and failed.  Gravity stubbornly continues to demonstrate that it is a conservative field.

Soon will be when RAR release details of their gravity engine. Keenie tried and succeeded. Bruce's Uncle tried and (unwittingly succeeded. I've no doubt when people realise that harnessing the gravitational wind is possible many other examples will emerge from the woodwork.

[Red_Sunset]

I couldn't disagree more...
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This is a big debate - and it cuts to the heart of both PHYSICS and MORALITY...

Tim,
You are absolutely correct on any ONE of the floors designated by Gimer (9th or 10th),  but do not across all floors.
I do not want to carry this any further since it is not an appropriate topic for this forum
Red_Sunset