Big try at gravity wheel

[Grimer]

I am very much on topic. The topic is conservatism and the TK experiment has a bearing on whether or not fields are conservative.


We have TK's experimental evidence which shows magnetism isn't conservative (unless it was a fraud as DP alleges). Why are you refusing to discus it?

[TinselKoala]

I can easily disprove that theory. I'll send you a cheque for £2000. How's that for evidence.

Sorry, we don't take checks. Or cheques, either. You can send it in three equal monthly parts, via Western Union. Don't forget to deduct the cost of the toy...er... experimental funnel itself.

[MarkE]

I am very much on topic. The topic is conservatism and the TK experiment has a bearing on whether or not fields are conservative.


We have TK's experimental evidence which shows magnetism isn't conservative (unless it was a fraud as DP alleges). Why are you refusing to discus it?

Grimer if you ever choose to come back on topic and state a set of conditions under which you believe gravity is non-conservative, then I will be happy to pursue that with you. 

[Grimer]

Grimer, if gravity is not conservative, then how do you account for very sensitive and well repeated torsion balance tests where large suspended masses have been shown to attract with forces indistinguishable from G*m1*m2/r^2?

If gravity is conservative how do you account for my graph - and the WhipMag in the case of the alleged conservative nature of magnetism.


After all, the WhipMag is very much your field whereas gravity obviously ain't.

We are not talking about torsion balances and the inverse square law. We are talking about pendulums.
Your red herring is totally irrelevant to the topic.


What for instance is this remark of yours meant to mean.


"Those machines look like they are missing a large and powerful engine to drive them."


Was that a sneer, albeit milder than TKs.

[MarkE]

If gravity is conservative how do you account for my graph - and the WhipMag in the case of the alleged conservative nature of magnetism.


After all, the WhipMag is very much your field whereas gravity obviously ain't.

Grimer, unless I have missed something your graph is not the result of an experiment.  As far as I know is an expression of an idea you postulate.  If you believe it describes or embodies conditions under which gravity is non-conservative, then let's talk about how that can be tested and see if we can come up with an accessible experiment.

Unless your ideas about gravity require magnets to make gravity non-conservative then that machine in the videos with the magnets is off topic.  If you are interested in that machine, then please find a suitable thread, or start one.