Big try at gravity wheel

[Red_Sunset]

EnergiaLibre,

To avoid any confusion, I have been addressing STATIC BUOYANCY in my previous post.

Red_Sunset

[minnie]

   Hi,
      can we add a gallon of water and raise our 1,000 ton ship?
                               John.

[Red_Sunset]

Energy Libre

A small add-on note on buoyancy to correct your erronious or incomplete statement "Buoyancy is a function of displaced VOLUME,  nothing else"

The Buoyancy SYMMETRY
Bouyancy Lift Force  = "Head pressure x horizontal float area"      of the float object
                                 =  "liquid volume weight of the displaced liquid"     by the submerged portion of the floating object   
                                 =  "Overall weight"     of the floating object

Can you now retract your previous statement ?,

This is the crux of the matter,  and it is where you, Wayne Travis and anyone else who believes in this is absolutely wrong.

Red_Sunset

[MarkE]

Webby,
One of the upside down cup aquarium demonstrations was exactly done to prove that Buoyancy is a FORCE due to PRESSURE .  To understand buoyancy in this context is pivotal to understanding the working of the Zed.

I think MarkE has the wrong end of the stick here.

MARKE,   that pressure equates in the end to volume and this makes it easy to calculate the lift force of uneven shapes is correct.  But in the workings of nature, bouyancy is a FORCE and this has nothing to do with volume/displ.water., but it has all to do with pressure.   It is this way because pressure is directly related to submerged height.(also a volume parameter).  Integral formula's do not aid understanding


Red_Sunset

Red_Sunset your statement:  "bouyancy is a FORCE and this has nothing to do with volume/displ.water" is absolutely false.  Please avail yourself to a physics text.

[Red_Sunset]

Red_Sunset your statement:  "bouyancy is a FORCE and this has nothing to do with volume/displ.water" is absolutely false.  Please avail yourself to a physics text. 

MarkE,
That is not exactly what I said !
I said,

MARKE,   that pressure equates in the end to volume and this makes it easy to calculate the lift force of uneven shapes is correct.

This means to say that in practical & formula form the relationship is there! No dispute !
Then I said,

But in the workings of nature, buoyancy is a FORCE and this has nothing to do with volume/displ.water., but it has all to do with pressure.   It is this way because pressure is directly related to submerged height.(also a volume parameter).  Integral formula's do not aid understanding

This means "aside from formula's that equal the same answers for good reasons",  IN NATURE, what keeps the ship floating is a FORCE, called a buoyancy force,  without LIFT FORCE the ship would sink.

This means that
1..  The primary and most important effect is the Buoyancy LIFT FORCE that materializes due to Pressure
2..  The Secondary to that is an equivalence called "displacement" that matches the same (for good reasons), BUT this is not the actual manifestation in Nature that keeps the ship on the surface. It is a derivative !!!

That is what I said, spelled out for the second time today.
To play with nature it is important to understand nature, not just playing with mathematical formula's alone !!

Red_Sunset