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Big try at gravity wheel

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Marsing

Quote from: webby1 on February 14, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
I have been fixing cars for over 40 years, in that time I have run across variations of the method I put forward from many manufacturers.  I put the parts together that I discussed to solve for an identical problem.

This method is not new, it is within existing art.

The method that you are requiring only allows for a 1:1 volume transfer, my method allows for a 1:1 energy transfer.

what method do you use webby ? would you explain that.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on February 14, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
I have been fixing cars for over 40 years, in that time I have run across variations of the method I put forward from many manufacturers.  I put the parts together that I discussed to solve for an identical problem.

This method is not new, it is within existing art.

The method that you are requiring only allows for a 1:1 volume transfer, my method allows for a 1:1 energy transfer.
Then you should have absolutely no trouble articulating your "method".  Don't forget to conserve the volume of "air" in your explanation.

MarkE

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 14, 2014, 11:35:09 PM
With all due respect, there is no such thing known.  Any and all energy transfers have losses.  Some more than others but, there are losses just the same.

My 2.3765 cents worth.

Bill
Webby says that he's been doing this for 40 years. 

QuoteI have been fixing cars for over 40 years, in that time I have run across variations of the method I put forward from many manufacturers.  I put the parts together that I discussed to solve for an identical problem.

This method is not new, it is within existing art.

The method that you are requiring only allows for a 1:1 volume transfer, my method allows for a 1:1 energy transfer.

I'd love to see webby describe his wonderful method.  We know that at the end of the process that the originating cylinder is down to 1/4th of its energy.  We know that at the end of the process that the receiving container holds exactly 1/2 of the "air".  So, what Webby has to do is without expending a bunch of extra energy is just get that 1/2 quantity of air into the second cylinder in such a way that the "air" contains 3/4ths of the original energy as in the first cylinder.  Let's see what that might look like, shall we?

Estart = P1start*V1start
E1end = P1end*V1end = 0.5*P1start* 0.5*V1start = 0.25*Estart

In order to maintain 1.0X energy as webby maintains he has done for many years, he needs to manage:
Eend = Estart = E1 + E2
E2 = Estart - 0.25*Estart
E2 = P2end*V2end = P1end*V2end
V2end = 0.75Estart/P1end = 1.5*V1start = 3.0*V1end

So all webby has to do with his wrench turning skills is transform the volume of "air" into 3X the volume of "air" in the first cylinder while keeping that air the same volume as in the first cylinder.  Even Jesus with five loaves and two fish couldn't manage that stunt.

minnie




   Webby,
              quote "my method allows a 1:1  energy transfer". I believe you need more than
        1 if you're to make this thing work. If you imagine shuffling 1 watt from side to side
         you're not doing any work.
                                          John.

Marsing

Quote from: webby1 on February 14, 2014, 11:04:20 PM

.......................... my method allows for a 1:1 energy transfer...................................


In simple word
" webby need an amount of "external energy" to transfer "his energy" from one place to other  place" 
   
"external energy" is an energy which webby must pay along transferring,

if this "external energy"  was taken from "his energy", you can quess the  final  result, 

this  is the simple logic running on my head

but if using "magic method "  ........ .........    i would like to know  ........... ...........