Big try at gravity wheel

[MarkE]

That PowerPoint presentation could probably be used as evidence against Wayne in a criminal trial.  It's the "Russian Doll" pitch used to bamboozle gullible investors.  An expert witness for the state could trash it with their eyes closed.
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MileHigh

A professional engineer is responsible for any serious omissions or errors that cause harm.  Investors who relied upon the representations or similar ones later made by Kevan Riley can sue him for their losses.

[MarkE]

Day 6 MarkE.

1.767145868×1.5 = 2.650718802cc

1.767145868 surface area cylinder

0.883572934 surface area fill @ 50%

(1.767145868×15)−(0.883572934×15) =  13.25359401cc buoyant fill volume
13.25359401cc×102230pa = 1354914.9156423

0.883572934×1.5 = 1.325359401cc volume add for lift
1.325359401cc×102908.5pa = 136390.747917808

1354914.9156423+136390.747917808 = 1491305.663560108 total cost

13.25359401cc×102079pa = 1352913.62294679
1354914.9156423−1352913.62294679 = 2001.29269551 loss

1.325359401cc×101400.5pa = 134392.1059411
136390.747917808−134392.1059411 = 1998.641976708 loss

2.650718802cc×102833pa = 272581.366566066 load recovery


272581.366566066+134392.1059411+1352913.62294679 = 1759887.095453956

1759887.095453956−1491305.663560108 = 268581.431893848 profit

268583.5523016  profit  268581.431893848 profit  "whack-a-mole" comparison

I have never claimed to be an engineer,, so take it and place it in what ever format you feel is required, since we all understand what the steps are,,

Just in case how about this.

Step one empty cylinder
Step two filled to neutral buoyancy with air
Step three added air for lift
Step four remove air after lift and recover energy
Step five recover payload energy

What out of this sequence is NOT understood.

Webby you are just digging yourself in deeper and deeper.  I have explained to you the steps needed to perform an energy balance.  The simpler that you declare the task while still failing miserably to perform it, the more question you draw to your skills.

[powercat]

Thanks TK I have added it to the list

Wayne Travis
He has promised verification
He has promised newspaper coverage on his discovery
He has promised scientific journals coverage
He has promised a production line
He has promised open sourcing
He has promised run data
He has promised simple physics can show how this device works
He has promised that he has already given out the information required.(But you must look properly)
He has promised that his optimized system is over 600% efficient.
He has promised that he always keeps his word and tells the truth
He has promised it will all be happening soon (over two years ago)
He has promised that he's leaving the forum and won't be back
He has promised a 50 kW "field unit" at Trinity Baptist Church, within 3 months of funded.(over 3 years ago)

@ Any more, please post

[MarkE]

Right MarkE,

Lets see,, you can not speak against the numbers so you are going to speak against the method that they have been delivered.

Why don't you take the 2 scenarios I have solved for and make your own presentation of them, show me how it is done, and then show me how somehow in the middle of doing that the numbers do not stay the same.  Show me that the cost to lift is more and the energy left is less.

Webby the numbers do not mean anything at all until you assign them based on some premises.  Anyone can throw numbers at a page all day long.  It is up to you to show the physical basis for the numbers that you assign.  It is not for anyone else to second guess what you may or may not be thinking:  right, wrong, or indifferent.

[TinselKoala]

Day 6 MarkE.

1.767145868×1.5 = 2.650718802cc

What exactly do these numbers represent?

1.767145868 surface area cylinder

Is this the total surface area of a cylinder? Or what?

0.883572934 surface area fill @ 50%

0.8835.... is indeed 50 percent of 1.7671.... but how does this relate to "surface area fill @ 50%"? If you fill a cylinder 50 percent full, its ends will still have the same surface area as before... but if you are considering the entire surface area of a cylinder, filling it half full does _not_ reduce the surface area by 50 percent.


Let's stop here so you can clear up my questions above before I proceed further. And please PLEASE look up "significant digits" in WIKI or your other favorite reference.

(1.767145868×15)−(0.883572934×15) =  13.25359401cc buoyant fill volume
13.25359401cc×102230pa = 1354914.9156423

Flag this for the next question: why are you now multiplying by 15, when your earlier volume (?) computation used 1.5? What does the "15" value represent, what are its units, where is it on a sketch?

0.883572934×1.5 = 1.325359401cc volume add for lift
1.325359401cc×102908.5pa = 136390.747917808

1354914.9156423+136390.747917808 = 1491305.663560108 total cost

13.25359401cc×102079pa = 1352913.62294679
1354914.9156423−1352913.62294679 = 2001.29269551 loss

1.325359401cc×101400.5pa = 134392.1059411
136390.747917808−134392.1059411 = 1998.641976708 loss

2.650718802cc×102833pa = 272581.366566066 load recovery


272581.366566066+134392.1059411+1352913.62294679 = 1759887.095453956

1759887.095453956−1491305.663560108 = 268581.431893848 profit

268583.5523016  profit  268581.431893848 profit  "whack-a-mole" comparison

I have never claimed to be an engineer,, so take it and place it in what ever format you feel is required, since we all understand what the steps are,,

Just in case how about this.

Step one empty cylinder
Step two filled to neutral buoyancy with air
Step three added air for lift
Step four remove air after lift and recover energy
Step five recover payload energy

What out of this sequence is NOT understood.