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Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?

Started by rukiddingme, May 21, 2013, 12:06:50 AM

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profitis

@tk..no im not 'hiring'you but it may boost your credibility and wallet if it works.a gadolinium core will for a split second plunge below its very low curie point (room temperature) after each oscillation of current through the coil wheras other cores eg soft iron,iron oxide hav much higher curies(700degree c)and may not be able to do this so gadolinium may fulfill one of  the parameters necesary for that extra kickback boost that these joule-hunters,like yourself,seek.passage through the curie point will cause the need for extra ambient heat intake on each thermodynamic oscillation cycle.   

conradelektro

Gadolinium:

Your Gadolinium will vanish soon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadolinium#Production

Unlike other rare earth elements, metallic gadolinium is relatively stable in dry air. However, it tarnishes quickly in moist air, forming a loosely adhering gadolinium(III) oxide (Gd2O3), which spalls off, exposing more surface to oxidation.

Gadolinium is expensive: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/211591?lang=de&region=AT

100 g for 200.-- EUR

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/691771?lang=de&region=AT (ingot, 10 g for 160.-- EUR)

Greetings, Conrad

profitis

chek out alfa aesar(u.k.)..10mm rod(what we need here),180 euros.yes its quite expensive but may well be worth buying.i must remind the people here that steorn once did an open demonstration of pulsing a.c. current over a nickel core and a iron core for comparison and obtained a quarter more joule-heating from the nickel core than the iron core for equal power input on both.the curie point of nickel is 350degrees c,half that of iron,co-incidence?   

conradelektro

Quote from: profitis on May 24, 2013, 09:21:22 AM
chek out alfa aesar(u.k.)..10mm rod(what we need here),180 euros.yes its quite expensive but may well be worth buying.i must remind the people here that steorn once did an open demonstration of pulsing a.c. current over a nickel core and a iron core for comparison and obtained a quarter more joule-heating from the nickel core than the iron core for equal power input on both.the curie point of nickel is 350degrees c,half that of iron,co-incidence?

http://www.alfa.com/de/gp100w.pgm?dsstk=040289
40289 Gadolinium rod, 6.35mm (0.25in) dia, 99.9% (metals basis excluding Ta) 25 mm length 425.-- EUR + 20% sales tax + shipping

http://www.alfa.com/de/gp100w.pgm?dsstk=040290
40290 Gadolinium rod, 12.7mm (0.5in) dia, 99.9% (metals basis excluding Ta) 25 mm length 798.-- EUR + 20% sales tax + shipping

Might be interesting, but way beyond what I am ready to spend on a wild idea. In case there comes in some tangible evidence, I might be tempted.

I do not doubt the strange heat results, but why should that bring back more electricity than has been put in? For me it just means that heat loss in a coil with a Gadolinium core is substantial, use Ferrite instead if you want a good coil.

The shape memory alloys are much cheaper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape-memory_alloy . I saw some Nitinol wires and springs on Ebay for 25.-- EUR. One can make a core with a bunch of short Nitinol wires (like many people do with soft iron nails for Bedini motor coils).

Why shape memory alloys? Why Gadolinium?

Greetings, Conrad

profitis

hi conrad..its to do with the 2 laws of thermodynamics.an overunity device has to circumvent at least one of them to work.the first law says you cant create energy from nothing,very true.the second says you cant collect ambient heat for free(not quite true) so what you guys want to do is make your paramagnetic core drop sharply below its curie point to effect a transition of the atoms from a paramagnetic state(semi-orderly orientation) to a ferromagnetic state(highly orderly orientation) on each and evry pulsed current cycle because for a split second you will achieve a reenforcement of the collapsing magnetic field this way and extra ambient heat(more than the energy that was put in) thus has to re-randomize the core atoms to their original state at the end of each cycle.this is realy what you guys should be focused on,google this'steven j.smith magnetothermodynamics'to see a similar explanation.pure gadolinium is going to be necesary because of its sharp transition point from paramagnetic to ferromagnetic under 20degrees c,perfect for our needs it would seem.