gravity-buoyancy underwater wheel

[Rafael Ti]

Pic no. 2 is a classic. The amount of air inside the pockets can't be more than the weights can push out or suck into them. There is a relationship between the weights and the amount of air. This relationship is ofcourse perfectly balanced and equal in both directions.
Vidar

Vidar.. of course you need to do your homework on this forum. Norway is rich thanks to oil, however some other countries are rich in water  .
So what if the solid weight causes more force than the pocket filled with the air? Air pockets in conjunction with the weights make the left side of wheel lighter and it doesn't matter that solid weights are heavy. They should be heavy enough to pump the air from place to place however air will make one side lighter than opposite one.
All the best

[Low-Q]

  Vidar.. of course you need to do your homework on this forum. Norway is rich thanks to oil, however some other countries are rich in water    .So what if the solid weight causes more force than the pocket filled with the air? Air pockets in conjunction with the weights make the left side of wheel lighter and it doesn't matter that solid weights are heavy. They should be heavy enough to pump the air from place to place however air will make one side lighter than opposite one.All the best

Yes, the greater air volume on the left side is more buoyant than the one on the right. But also the weights on the left is in average further from the hub than the weights on the right. The drawing has a minor flaw that does not show this correctly. The bottom volume should be smaller than the one on the top for example. This will arrange the positions of the weights differently.


Yes, Norway is a rich country, but most of our electric power comes from hydroplants - waterfalls that are found everywhere in the mountains, but also power plants in rivers, dams, etc. So we know well how the water should power our homes and the factories.
No matter how much or little money you got, you cannot trick nature. Gravitywheels like these will not work.


Vidar

[roberval]

 made a huge stuff up, it was right in front of me.
for some reason i kept thinking about the paired weights and floats being balanced,
somehow the obvious flaw had been overlooked, which is at the 12:00 and 6:00 position 2 floats are at top and 2 weights at the bottom when the arms open up. 

[Rafael Ti]

you cannot trick nature. Gravitywheels like these will not work.
Vidar

We are all here to "trick the nature"... This is what Overunity dot com is about. The ideas are more important than solutions, because it is hard for some parties to patent some ideas. There may be few good ideas, but thousand particular solutions, developments ect. and that is better for "average" mankind.
For example pic.2 is actually Besslers No. 108 device:

http://orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/viewer/image/1345798641226/88/#topDocAnchor

@ Mr roberval
Did you try something with Roberval Balance? It's very interesting thing.

[roberval]

@ Mr roberval
Did you try something with Roberval Balance? It's very interesting thing.

My current project involves a Roberval balance, the design is used to transfer a non gravity force, which is passed onto a secondary gravity system,
the forces of both systems remain in equilibrium.
have tried a fair few systems using the balance and believe it's one of besslers most important clues , as it shows many devices in equilibrium.
The hammermen toy is another important clue.
keeping a close eye on the Brazilian beast.

haven't figured out how it works, though keep checking the design to see if they somehow transferred the weight from the vertical beams to a longer horizontal beam to increase leverage when the weight is disconnected from the roberval vertical beam.
tried variations of the idea myself, though no gain as it took the same amount of work to lift the weight back from the longer lever onto the Roberval's  vertical beam.