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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.

Started by synchro1, June 09, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

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synchro1

Quote from: MarkE on December 26, 2014, 07:34:59 AM
It does no such thing.It is just the opposite:  Saturated core = low inductance, introduces low phase lag in a series RL, or LC circuit.  Unsaturated core = much higher inductance and much greater series phase lag in the same series RL or LC circuit. The permeability is higher as is the inductance.  The resistance is unaffected.Yes synchro1 it is no big deal, and relatively easy to learn.  Please learn it correctly.

All this bullcrap is just a pack of lies.

synchro1

@MarkE,

Everything you say is just a steaming crock of shit! You're psychotic. Get help.

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on December 25, 2014, 08:51:52 PM
There is no such thing as a "Lenz force".  There is Faraday induction, and there is Lorentz force.  Lenz' Law dictates the orientation of induced emf due to Faraday induction.  There is nothing that delays the orientation of induced EMF dictated by Lenz' Law.  There are mechanisms that delay external formation of a field such as eddy currents and magnetic viscosity.  Each of those examples are energy loss mechanisms.  If one wants to make a brake or a heater, they can be quite useful.  If one is trying to increase the efficiency of a motor or a generator they are to be carefully minimized.  If one is looking to obtain mechanical or electrical energy back from either of those mechanisms, that is never going to happen.  As the adage goes:  "Losses cannot be made up in volume." 

The Tinsel Koala experiment procedure is very instructive:  Take any mechanism where it is suspected or believed that the mechanism adds net energy, and conduct a null experiment with the alleged energy adding device replaced by a mechanically equivalent null device.  Test to see if the measure of energy is better with the proposed mechanism or its null equivalent.  These experiments quickly expose fallacies in the assumptions behind experiments that do not include a proper null.    In the case of alleged "delayed Lenz effect" devices: Each and every one fails to show energy advantage over its null equivalent.
Lenz's law- An electric current induced by a changing magnetic field will flow such that it will create its own magnetic field that opposes the magnetic field that created it.
So this is what we are trying to see if we can delay-the law that Lenz stated.
So when the guys say!lenz delay!,they mean they are trying to delay the magnetic field that opposes the magnetic field that created it-lenz's law.

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on December 26, 2014, 08:37:05 AM
@MarkE,

Everything you say is just a steaming crock of shit! You're psychotic. Get help.
Synchro1 is there a particular reason that you have chosen to play yourself as a fool?

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on December 26, 2014, 08:37:08 AM
Lenz's law- An electric current induced by a changing magnetic field will flow such that it will create its own magnetic field that opposes the magnetic field that created it.
So this is what we are trying to see if we can delay-the law that Lenz stated.
So when the guys say!lenz delay!,they mean they are trying to delay the magnetic field that opposes the magnetic field that created it-lenz's law.
Tinman Lenz states the direction of an induced emf.  That's it.  It is Faraday's Law of Induction that states that the emf is induced.  And it is the instant that the change in flux crosses the conductor.  Eddy currents orient in such a way as to resist the change in the net field.  They would not exist but for Faraday induction.  They are not delayed.

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QuoteSo when the guys say!lenz delay!,they mean they are trying to delay the magnetic field that opposes the magnetic field that created it-lenz's law.

See above for Lenz's Law. 

As to the alleged effect.  The very phenomena cited are counter examples to what you say these guys are hoping to find.