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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.

Started by synchro1, June 09, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

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synchro1

Quote from: MarkE on December 01, 2014, 10:20:56 PM
Synchro1 reasonable people develop test protocols and perform replications to get to the bottom of extraordinary claims.  Nothing forces you to cooperate.

Reasonable people don't live on a hammock under a palm tree on the beach in Costa Rica!

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on December 01, 2014, 10:25:42 PM

Reasonable people don't live on a hammock under a palm tree on the beach in Costa Rica!
Bob Vesco may have said that.

TinselKoala

He knows it cannot accelerate unless it is being provided with power from the outside, or is running on stored energy eg from a capacitor, which will be running down. That's why whenever you or I suggest an actual demonstration, he flails and bails.


synchro1

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 01, 2014, 11:08:00 PM
He knows it cannot accelerate unless it is being provided with power from the outside, or is running on stored energy eg from a capacitor, which will be running down. That's why whenever you or I suggest an actual demonstration, he flails and bails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtCN1GWqtqg

Twinbeard's generating 1000 volts from his transformer at .160 amps in his speed racer video from a 1/8th" sphere rotating at 3 million RPM with milliwatts of input from "Lenz Propulsion" in his output coil core resulting from BEMF field distortion feedback. So go solder up another dime store novelty from cost saver junk parts, like your solar bar bird, and keep making cheap wisecracks.

MileHigh

These were my comments about the "three million RPM" clip from a few months ago:

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Twinbeard:

I looked at your clip again.  You measure 20 microseconds between the small spikes.  You don't make a single attempt to double-check that measurement.  You don't try changing the time base, you don't try changing the trigger level, you don't make any attempt to double check your scope probe connection, you don't try to check if there might be a 20 microsecond clock signal somewhere else in the circuit or perhaps even close to the circuit.  You notice (not you personally, I mean the generic "you") that sometimes on the display you see that spikes are completely missing in a regular pattern, like "missing teeth."  But if your rotating magnet ball is truly doing one revolution every 20 microseconds that should not be happening.  But you don't even question that.  If there are missing spikes then something certainly is amiss, but you don't do anything to investigate that mystery.

Then you state that you tweaked the trigger level and you end up with a stable display but there are still two missing spikes!  You almost certainly are not looking at the speed of he rotating ball magnet.  3,000,000 RPM is a ridiculous speed for just about any size of rotating magnet but you are seemingly numb and unaware as you correctly crunch the garbage-in-garbage-out numbers.

Then you look at the generator output and you see a waveform that looks like icicles in winter.  You don't even make an attempt to reduce your voltage scale, change your time base, adjust your trigger level and get a good waveform triggered from that channel.  You are supposed to know ahead of time that the expected waveform is a near-pure sine wave at that alleged frequency.  It looks like a compound waveform of some sort, perhaps two separate sine waves added together, with "low" and "high" peaks along with some amplitude modulation as the two sine waves beat with each other.  Why is that?  You don't even try to figure it out.

Okay so you have a bunch of transformers in the circuit.  Perhaps that partially explains the seeming total mess on the output waveform, but you don't care.  You put your hand near the multimeter and the current measurement skews.  That's not supposed to happen so it almost certainly means that measurement is junk but you don't care.  Are there any bandwidth issues with your multimeter when is trying to measure the very high-frequency AC current?  I bet that you don't know and you never checked.

To sum it up, your clip is a total disaster.  My best guess is that your setup was self-resonating at 50 KHz while a the same time the little ball magnet was turning at high speed, but at a much much lower speed than the ridiculous speed of 3,000,000 RPM.

If the ball was actually turning at 3,000,000 RPM, chances are that within 10 seconds you would smell burning plastic and the thing would spontaneously self-destruct from the heat due to friction.

So your clip leaves a lot to be desired.  I am giving you the real deal.
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Some of Twinbeard's response:

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Yeah, watch the videos that came after that one.  My instrumentation got better as well as the device, and my understanding of the processes evolved.  You will find answers to your objections there, because frankly, I have heard all this crap before.  Quite a few very intelligent people well versed in the applicable physics have seen the device in person, and examined it.  Not one has questioned the frequency of operation, particularly after hearing the air ripping around the rotor, which, alas does not come through in the videos due to ambient noise
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Synchro1, and others:  When you look at a clip you are looking for content and credibility, proper measurements, proper description, and so on.  Too many clips are very weak in many areas.  If you make a clip and it looks like you are not even trying to get a proper trigger and appropriate time base set up on your scope it's a huge issue.

All that you would have to have done in the Twinbeard clip would have been to attach your scope channel to a sniffer coil and poked around until you got a good looking and credible looking sine wave picked up from the rotating magnetic field of the spinning ball.  There is no way that ball was spinning at three million RPM.

I don't understand how you can look at that clip Synchro1 and not see how problematic it is.

MileHigh