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thermodynamics of cores.2nd law breach?

Started by profitis, July 02, 2013, 07:57:07 PM

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profitis

@pw we cant realy capture,or utilize this fluctuation of heat with greater than 100% efficiency unless we use a circuit which is tailor-suited to the purpose.otherwise we burn too much fuel in our battery,or lose to much heat in our circuit,etc etc.its going to take trial and error to get it right in order to make sure that we cross the 100percent bridge.when it comes to ferrite cores the same rule applies,in a ferrite core the order of domains also increase for a split second just prior to collapse.

picowatt

Quote from: profitis on July 04, 2013, 12:57:05 PM
@pw we cant realy capture,or utilize this fluctuation of heat with greater than 100% efficiency unless we use a circuit which is tailor-suited to the purpose.otherwise we burn too much fuel in our battery,or lose to much heat in our circuit,etc etc.its going to take trial and error to get it right in order to make sure that we cross the 100percent bridge.when it comes to ferrite cores the same rule applies,in a ferrite core the order of domains also increase for a split second just prior to collapse.

Sounds more like "speculation" than "confirmation"...

profitis

@pw..well isnt it funny that gadolinium and its alloys and salts are the choice material for refrigeration at greatest efficiency..mm..must be something to do with the curie point transition.the efficiency of our energy source will play a big role in getting over the 100percent mark.if we use our hand to move a magnet over gadolinium we wont cross the mark or register the mark as our body burns way too much fuel to do such work.we need a battery giving one pulse at a time in a coil around the gadolinium.we need to capture kickback one pulse at a time. 

profitis

@pw..the only thing i can confirm is that gadolinium will without doubt liberate its own heat if the coils around it drop it to below its curie point.thus give a theoretical basis for building an overunity circuit around it.i can also confirm that the order of ferrite domains will undoubtedy increase if the coils around them drop their temperature,thus giving a theoretical basis for overunity circuits built around them.

picowatt

Quote from: profitis on July 04, 2013, 01:29:43 PM
@pw..the only thing i can confirm is that gadolinium will without doubt liberate its own heat if the coils around it drop it to below its curie point.thus give a theoretical basis for building an overunity circuit around it.i can also confirm that the order of ferrite domains will undoubtedy increase if the coils around them drop their temperature,thus giving a theoretical basis for overunity circuits built around them.

Place a pece of Gd in a perfect thermal insuator.

Apply a magnetic field.  Heat is released, but as the heat can't escape, the temperature of the Gd increases. 

Remove the magnetic field.  Heat is absorbed, but as none can come from outside, the temperature of the Gd decreases.

If the process were 100% efficient, the temperature of the Gd at the end of each cycle would be the same, regardless of whether the temperature swings transition the Curie temp or not.  However, as the process is not 100%, the temperature of the Gd will rise with each cycle (i.e., some of the magnetization energy produces unwanted heating from other effects). 

PW