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[IceStorm]

Hi,

Does anyone have experience using the MEG to charge batteries?

The reason for asking is due to all of the talk on the Joule Thief circuits and how the effect is due to the battery or ultracaps. It seems to me Bedini has been saying the same thing for ages. Remember J.L.Naudin replication of the MEG? Naudin suggested his specially treated large carbon film resistors was the key. These resistors were treated to long term high voltage spikes, to such a point where its resistance was far more non-linear.

Anyhow,  all of the MEG measurements I'm aware of tried to calculate the MEG output power produced on a resistive load, but I am interested in data where a battery is placed on the output. Therefore careful control experiments would have be executed to determine how much energy went into the battery.

Paul

It was not carbon film resistor but carbon composition resistor, its not the same, With high voltage it become like a varistor but more chaotic since the outcome is uncertain, in fact its just to phase out the output if you think why he done that.

Best Regards,
IceStorm

[PaulLowrance]

If it's carbon composite, then if memory holds true, a good amount of micro fractures will form within the material given high current spikes. Maybe that's the cause of the non-linearity due to microscopic internal arcing.

Have you made one of those resistors as described by Naudin?

Paul

[IceStorm]

If it's carbon composite, then if memory holds true, a good amount of micro fractures will form within the material given high current spikes. Maybe that's the cause of the non-linearity due to microscopic internal arcing.

Have you made one of those resistors as described by Naudin?

Paul

Yes ive done this experiment but the end result is not clear, depending of the voltage applied the reading change(10v/1A get a different reading than 100v/0.1A). What i don't understand is , the output of the JLN meg is well over 1kv and if you look at most carbon composition resistor, there a max voltage of about 450v/650v before weird thing happen. Another thing to think, carbon composition resistor don't have any inductance like other type of resistor particularly wire wound resistor but it can show Noise, its the only problem with carbon composition resistor so it can make the reading inaccurate and even more if the voltage is > 1kv. The experiment JLN showed is not fully disclosed, just take a look at the output, there one thing missing.

Best Regards,
IceStorm

[MasterPlaster]

You may be interested in patent by Hybrid Strategies Corporation

WO2009/021308

It clearly states it is overunity.

[NTesla]

For those who are interested, the following was posted on the "MEG_builders" forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEG_builders/ on Thu Oct 7, 2010 7:01 pm:

"Dear MEG_Builders member,

This message is to let you know that on Oct. 7, 2010 the Yahoo MEG_Builders
group will be closed down. The reasons for this are many but primarily it is
because over the last few years there has been a definite lack of positive
developments with the MEG, there has been an obvious lack of interest by members
of this group in doing experiments and reporting results and lastly this site
and its members have increasingly become under attack by spammers who phish it
for member's email addresses and who attempt to post their spam ads to the site.
For these reasons the moderators are closing down this site to new
memberships and new postings. However if new MEG developments occur that would
encourage experimenters to begin or resume MEG experiments then the moderators
of this group are prepared to reopen it. In the meantime, members and
non-members should be able to continue to view the massages on the site and
members should also be able to download files from the FILES area of the site.

Sincerely,

Dave Narby and Stan Mayer - MEG_Builders group moderators

P.S. If you have questions or information to share with us in regards to the
MEG, please contact Stan at STANMAYER@..."