Bedini, Lindemann, Bearden, Dollard -- What are their Accomplishments?

[tinman]

@happy..no.im going to give ten thousand dollars to the first person who can make the karpen cell run flat to zero.

Profitis,maybe we have our wires crossed here?. What is your understanding of an overunity device?.

[profitis]

@tinman.it is very clearly explained in the wikipaedia.a overunity device is a device that doesnt need a temperature difference to give us work.a karpen pile does not need a temperature difference to give us grossly dis-proportionate work.its getting its energy from a difference in electrostatic potential btween gold and platinum in acid solution.gold and platinum cannot chemicaly react so the system compensates in one of two ways.1) it can split water into hydrogen and oxygen to reach electrostatic equilibrium or 2)it can shift oxygen gas from one electrode to the other to reach electrostatic equilibrium.number 2 has been proven to happen.a karpen pile does not work under argon gas.it works under air or oxygen gas.

[profitis]

 heres the electrochemical equasions: at cathode O + 2H++ +2e- = H2O. and at anode H2O = O + 2H++ +2e-. One electrode heats up and the other cools down,spontaneously.the cycle is repeatable ad infinitum.

[Ein~+ein]

heres the electrochemical equasions: at cathode O + 2H++ +2e- = H2O. and at anode H2O = O + 2H++ +2e-. One electrode heats up and the other cools down,spontaneously.the cycle is repeatable ad infinitum.

@Profitis: I sincerely doubt the above cycle could repeat itself ad infinitum.

What 'wikipaedia' definition are you referring to?  Searching for 'overunity' on Wikipedia.org redirects to 'perpetual motion' where it's not even mentioned.  In fact, the only web definition I've come up with is: "The hypothetical continuous operation of an isolated mechanical device or other closed system without a sustaining energy source."  It's not a term recognized by either Oxford or Webster's online dictionaries, the two most comprehensive dictionaries of the English language. 

[profitis]

@einstein you can doubt all you want.that cycle will and does go on and on way beyond our biological lifetimes.im an electrochemist,ive studied it in detail.when i say overunity i mean a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics.this cell performs work,the heat equivalent of that work is returned to the cell by absorbtion of heat from a single thermal resovoir,the ambient.its a perpetuum mobilum of the 2nd kind by definition.it wont work under argon.it works under air.