Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell

[markdansie]

Both he and Stan had one thing in common, neither had a car running on water, or better phrased that could be independently verified. or replicated.

[ramset]

Mark
Perhaps to say Stan did not run the car on water with out first hand Knowledge
is Not fair ?
After all he is not here to defend himself...

We all Know and are taught just how much energy is locked up in water 
as a matter of fact there is energy locked into everything around us ,an immense amount
beyond comprehension.

thx
Chet

[Paki1]

@markdansie, how can the Agha Waqar's HHO fuel cell be independently verified? Please give some practical methods.
Also, if you want to verify yourself then you can come here in Pakistan and verify it yourself personally. Also, if you can bear the expenses, Agha Waqar can come to you and can prove to you there in front of you that his claims about the HHO fuel cell are all correct and that his fuel cell is over unity.

[MileHigh]

You know the old cliche, water is the ash you get after you burn hydrogen.  Ash means a LOW energy state, you have already "sucked out the juice."

Let me see if I can find the chemical equation.  Okay I found it in question and answer form:

Question:

H2(g) + 1/2 O2(g) → H2O(l) ΔH = -286 kJ/mol
What is the enthalpy change when 15.0 mol of hydrogen gas reacts with excess oxygen.

Answer:

Overall, the enthalpy change is negative. Therefore it is an exothermic reaction (heat is released)
There 286kJ per mole is given off. If 15 mol of H2 is burnt in oxygen, 286x 15 Kj of Energy given off.
Hence 4290kJ of energy is released (provided the Oxygen is in excess supply). Ie, Total change in enthalypy is -4290kJ.

Note this is the chemical energy associated with the reaction, not the fantasy "clockwork of the Universe energy in a teacup" energy.

I believe that the "HHO" crowd always makes the pitch that they can separate water into hydrogen and oxygen by using an undefined "fantasy resonance" based system so that they don't have to expend the 286 kilojoules of energy per mole to do the separation.  It's the alleged "get out of jail free" card.  But then they reap the benefits of the 286 kilojoules of energy given off when the hydrogen recombines with oxygen.

So they are implying an over unity process can be realized when you separate the water.  Hence you can run your car on water by using a small amount of the 286 kilojoules per mole given off during the burning to separate more water into hydrogen and oxygen.

So there is an alleged "energy short cut" to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen.  It's been a year on now and no news about fleets of buses and cars running on water in Pakistan.  Am I correct?

MileHigh

[Kator01]

Milehigh,

interesting that you ask this question. Yesterday I stumbled on this guy here: David A. Puchta:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Hhydrogen4Power&oq=Hhydrogen4Power&gs_l=youtube.12...0.0.0.1327952.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac..11.youtube.

He developed some electrode-material which he is offering at a unpayable price of 2500 $/ounce !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5t8_eCqyrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bc3h0ObjBY

and than this project of Todd here: ( TiO2 - Plasma Spray Coating )
http://www.overunity.com/13651/now-offering-electron-extraction-coating-services/msg366025/#new

Regards

Kator01