Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell

[Liberty]

@liberty
Unfortunately in regards to water splitting and hho the answer is no. In my many years of testing , investigating and reviewing nothing ever panned out. There is still the urban myths people cling onto and this Pakistan claim is type of the Bullshit that is out there.
There are some brilliant people still researching in the area including main steam scientists and universities.


I am sure many good people in this forum good direct me to may claims and examples, but none ever have had third party verification, or data collected. Most the evidence is antidotes, Chinese rumors and just plain BS. Some of the bet research from the amateur experimenters is out of Europe with many good sites and forums.


Whats annoying me in this particular thread is people portraying themselves as experts, and never built a cell in their life. One of the people I admire the most George Wisemen who pioneered a lot of research in this area said on the Smart Scarecrow Show he never sold more than 200 units worldwide. Believe me their is a reason for that.


Kind Regards


PS Profitis....please let us all know the last cell you built and the results you got remember you claimed you have done dozens of experiments. Hey a photograph would be great. I attached one of a device that cracks the hydrogen from the fuel using heat and electric fields. This is at a government test facility in Australia and was part of a series of Chassis dyno tests. We tested the same device in engine labs is California the month before. We also tested it at the NREL labs in USA. We also tested several HHO devices as well .

I have found through chemistry, that chemical bonds are very predictable and would seem to be subject to conventional reactions.  I have found otherwise in magnetics in special cases. 

Best wishes,

Liberty

[profitis]

@markdansie,,i,l even attatch the hydrogen and oxygen chambers of the fuel cell to the electrolysis cell for you lol.

[profitis]

@markdansie,the inefficiencies of most of these hho pioneers is due to the losses in their actual power source thats why i insist on coupling to a fuel cell,chambers and all.

[profitis]

@kator,ive done extensive research with semiconductors,yes TiO2 nanopowder has enormous surface area and would be highly conducive to water splitting,if we were to coat some of foreverlight.com,s panels with it and throw it in water we will get splitting,,in the dark!!

[markdansie]

@markdansie..affirmative,you give me the fuel cell,i,l attatch the electrolysis cell to match.

So you avoided my question again. Earlier in the thread you said you completed lots of experiments. I ma trying to finout how many involved you building a HHO cell or splitting water.
Do you have a photo's? What is the architecture (plates)? What performance have you had? How many Cells have you build and tested? Is the data available? What was the gas analysis (TK was right many get fooled by water vapor had even nitrogen introduced by venturi effects)?
Have you done your homework on fuel cells? Dis you use Brute force? Did you use pulsed signals or harmonics?or harmonics.
Do you have a paper with the equations to support your current hypothesis and some evidence from your own experiments why this should work?
What is the specification of your cell you have. What is its current efficiency? We need to have baselines.
You said affirmative? Does that mean you have cells, data, photo's any other evidence???
You see I am about finding the truth and at the moment my BS meter is off the scale reading your posts. I do not mind the theory, discussions, but when you make claims and lead others on you better have the evidence.
Rosemary has created a vacancy and it appears your standing in to fill it.
You know TK. Bill, MH and dozens of others here are honest people. Many work hard as expeimenters. Above all liek with TK I never pretend to be 5% as qualified as he is, I know my limits. If I knew 2% of what MH did about science I would be pretty smart. And others like Pirate are decent experimenters who do a great job.....none of these people BS
Kind Regards