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Smot with mutliple balls

Started by buddyboy, July 27, 2013, 12:55:32 AM

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Low-Q

Quote from: profitis on August 03, 2013, 08:46:14 PM
there doesnt have to be a full cycle @l.q. Just that we must use less energy on hoisting to acceleration point than what we get at decelleration point is all that matters.an electromagnetic equivalent is the inductor with its back-spikes,its just we wait for someone to collect efficiently.somebody must test the smot with nickel,cobalt,gadolinium ball,results may be surprising.
The back spike in an inductor is occouring due to the sudden collaps of the already built up magnetic field. The field that is built up required energy to do. That applied energy minus thermal loss is what we get back from the spike - nothing more. The faster the field collaps the greater the spike will be, but on expence of a shorter time. Energy is measured in Joules. You can charge an inductor bu building up a magnetic field with 1 Joule over one second - 1 Watt that is. The collaps of the field can however happen over just 1 ms which is 1kW. However, both input ENERGY and output ENERGY are the same. Hypothetically, in order to repeatedly harness energy from a smot, the smot must neccessarily cycle over and over. How else can you repeat the experiment for the purpose of harvesting useful excess energy?

profitis

yes but thers a hidden entropy change going on in the cooling part of the inductance cycle.magnetic power is affected by temperature thus there is more order in magnetic allignment at lower temp than higher temp thus is it unreasonable to assert that when our inductor cools during the collapsing magnetic field actualy gains strength and more power on the backspike? I dont think its unreasonable.the smot ball on the other hand is at its hottest part of the cycle at the top of the ramp,thus loses a certain amount of magnetic order strength and is able to chop out of the magnets influence.thats the irony of magnetic dipole ordering,they increase at lower temps and decrease at higher temps,spontaneously.electrical resistance also drops on the coils around a core on the cooling half of the cycle making easier passage of backspike.

profitis

the best way to illustrate what i mean regarding the importance of temperature is to let a gadolinium ball roll up a smot ramp at a room temperature of just a few decimal points below its curie point 19celcius.when the ball is flung at the top it is going to be at its hottest point,just above 19celcius and non-magnetic for a split-second and escape magnetic influence and be flung far far away.

Low-Q

Curie temperature is an interesting subject. I know too little about how sudden a magnetic ball turns into no magnetic. I guess the curie point isn't razor sharp.

profitis

it is sharp according to wiki.its quite a knife-cut going from para to ferromagnetic.