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Seven times more energy output than input: Power Multiplier Device

Started by Russell Lee, October 04, 2012, 03:20:25 PM

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LibreEnergia

Quote from: Russell Lee on July 15, 2013, 12:43:27 PM
No. Because of the entropy factor, each generator DOES NOT generate enough charge to return itself back to the starting point. You have thrown out misdirection/confusion rhetoric to cover your lack of having an authentic challenge with "implying the timing of when these independent generators descend is 'somehow' important to creating an excess of charge." It isn't 'important, it is the KEY to the generation of free energy-this is why you focused your attack on this single point. It's like saying "You act as though the spinal chord has an important role in how we use our hands!" This is how petro-minions identify themselves, slight-of-hand, misdirection methods of operating. Your first sentence was wrong, your reasoning was fallacious-You're busted!
I'm finished with dispersing the PMD system design into the diaspora, what happens with it happens, it's time to turn the page and leave the internet (and it's minions) in the past.-Peace out.

Ok, lets rephrase that so even an someone as confused about physics as you appear  to be can understand it.

"Neglecting losses due to friction or generation efficiency, (which as you point out result in an increase in entropy), each generator can AT BEST generate enough charge in the battery to return ITSELF to the starting position.

Would you agree or disagree?  If you don't agree to that statement then there is no point in continuing to analyse why this device does not work.

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Russell Lee

Last entry:
  Each generator cannot generate enough energy to get itself back to the top due to entropy variables. That is why there is available an outside energy source input in the form of the other six PMDs charging into the battery at the same time. With the one rising there needs to be at least two descending to provide all the energy the one rising needs to climb back to the top-all of the time it is climbing. When there are always six PMDs descending, there will always be more than enough energy flowing into the battery to provide for the one ascending. With six always descending, and one always ascending, there will always be an excess amount of energy produced, above what the system needs to function. Adios.
Quote from: LibreEnergia on July 15, 2013, 06:08:31 PM
Ok, lets rephrase that so even an someone as confused about physics as you appear  to be can understand it.

"Neglecting losses due to friction or generation efficiency, (which as you point out result in an increase in entropy), each generator can AT BEST generate enough charge in the battery to return ITSELF to the starting position.

Would you agree or disagree?  If you don't agree to that statement then there is no point in continuing to analyse why this device does not work.

LibreEnergia

Quote from: Russell Lee on July 18, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
Last entry:
  Each generator cannot generate enough energy to get itself back to the top due to entropy variables. That is why there is available an outside energy source input in the form of the other six PMDs charging into the battery at the same time. With the one rising there needs to be at least two descending to provide all the energy the one rising needs to climb back to the top-all of the time it is climbing. When there are always six PMDs descending, there will always be more than enough energy flowing into the battery to provide for the one ascending. With six always descending, and one always ascending, there will always be an excess amount of energy produced, above what the system needs to function. Adios.

I'd think that by now that even the most amateur of mathematicians has all they need to show why this does not work.
Using you own admission that 2 generators are required to return one to the top, Consider the following scenario.

6 generators at the top, one at the bottom. Two generators descend, one ascends. Net result 5 generators at the top, 2 at the bottom.
Then two generators descend 1 ascends. Net result 4 generators at the top , 3 at the bottom.
Then two generators descend , 1 ascends. Net result 3 generators at the top 4 at the bottom.

Before you know it all the generators are at the bottom there is no excess change in he battery to send any of them back to the top.

If you think otherwise then you are completely deluded.