another Self looped Generator Claim

[markdansie]

Hi Profitis
I think you should have a look at this


http://revolution-green.com/2013/08/17/inventor-of-the-week-tinman/

[profitis]

@markdansie,the point im making here is that that the team of physicists,scientists,chemists that you refer to did not provide an conclusive explanation as to the origins of permanent electrical power in the noble metals examples which is my duty to explain using normal text-book chemistry,and show how normal text-book chemistry actualy supports a straight-forward 2nd law violation.the noble metal examples actualy do have practical use,eg,for certain military applications but i wont go offtopic here which is to show how we can obtain useful energy without the need for a temperature difference.this may not be important for the most guys who visit here but it may spur motivation for the serious ones who are already suspecting something amiss with the physics laws.with one sentence quoted from today,s textbooks i can trigger a flurry of research @markdansie,what did you find out about the holland demo if i may ask,are you allowed to tell.yes,stationary magnetic fields can give rise to electric power,ive seen it in an oxygen electrode(O2 is attracted to magnets)and other electrodes(Fe2+ ions are attracted to magnets)..     

[markdansie]

@markdansie,the point im making here is that that the team of physicists,scientists,chemists that you refer to did not provide an conclusive explanation as to the origins of permanent electrical power in the noble metals examples which is my duty to explain using normal text-book chemistry,and show how normal text-book chemistry actualy supports a straight-forward 2nd law violation.the noble metal examples actualy do have practical use,eg,for certain military applications but i wont go offtopic here which is to show how we can obtain useful energy without the need for a temperature difference.this may not be important for the most guys who visit here but it may spur motivation for the serious ones who are already suspecting something amiss with the physics laws.with one sentence quoted from today,s textbooks i can trigger a flurry of research @markdansie,what did you find out about the holland demo if i may ask,are you allowed to tell.yes,stationary magnetic fields can give rise to electric power,ive seen it in an oxygen electrode(O2 is attracted to magnets)and other electrodes(Fe2+ ions are attracted to magnets)..   

1. Well actually they did explain it but not publicly. Unlike institutions researched backed by private companies is commercial in confidence until its protected. Just as you do not want to reveal your trade secrets.
2. The hydrogen experiment is also under NDA until further testing is complete. It is not my technology to expose.
3. The other one I will get you the website in the morning. It cool
4. The one is Holland could also be the material slowly returning back to its normal state after being stressed through heat and electrical polling


Kind Regards

[profitis]

@markdansie..1)i explained it,publicly.this info is also available on the net.2)is there a writeup about this anywhere? 3)thanx mate 4)not necessarily 2)is there a writeup about this anywhere?

[tinman]

@Profitis
Im not attacking you,but more asking as to why you wont build these devices you claim to defy the second law of thermodynamic's. I for one,hope that what you say is true. But this is something that must be proven,and as you make the claim,it is up to you to do that. Normaly i would slash out some of my hard earned cash,and go build the device. But i cannot spare the amount needed to go buy gold-well not yet anyway. I question you because some things you say just dont make sence.
Example-rather than offer me $10 000.oo to build the karpen pile battery-why not spend $500.00 of that $10 000.oo and build it your self. This isnt something that can be taken from you,as it is not yours for anyone to take. The design is already patented,and has since expired. It is now open source,and cannot be claimed by anyone else. So i see no reason that you wouldnt build this device,and show us all that you are right about it being OU???.

As far as Libre go's-i have no need to question him,as he makes no claims of an OU device that i can see. And what go's on between you and him,has nothing to do with me.
Im not saying you are wrong,but i am saying that no one has (as yet) been able to create energy. There for by default,there can be no OU device,as the energy is comeing from some where. There can be free energy device's,wich to me means the gathering of energy at no cost to us-like solar or wind. An OU device has always been seen as a device that put's out more energy than it consume's-this simply cannot happen. Only until an understanding of where the extra energy input is comeing from,will that device be concidered OU.

To me ,an overunity machine is just a machine running off an unknown power source.