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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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Void

Quote from: skribat on February 08, 2015, 08:27:28 AM
it seems that almost everyone working on replicating the captor for some reason ignores their use of the magnetic pulse device use in their system ..

Hi skribat. Can you elaborate a bit on the 'magnetic pulse device' you are referring to?
Is it mentioned in any of the patents, and, if so, which ones? Or where is this described?
All the best...

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: Void on February 04, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
Hi Bob. I watched that guy's videos a couple of weeks ago. He doesn't seem to understand
even the basics of doing proper power measurements, and he also seemed not to be aware
that neutral is usually earth grounded at the electrical panel (not sure about in his country however).
In the last video of his I watched he was showing what appeared to be way more input power consumption than
he was delivering to his load, and he seems oblivious that this is actually indicating quite a bit less than unity.
Someone pointed this out to him in a comment to his video, and the guy replied that "he was excited". He seems
to have not understood the significance of the relation between input power compared to output power. Also
his measurements are completely inadequate. It appears that he doesn't really know what he is doing. I
hope he doesn't electrocute himself.
All the best...

Hi Void,
In my home my grid is 220v 50hz the ground is isolated from neutral,  and RCD system is protecting all the sockets.
Seems to me that is need some kind of "Kick" to circuit work with 110v network. in the load is used a halogen 50w 240v.
In this video, with a variac in input , clearly see that effect only will start when a reach 130v , after, we can lower the voltage and the "effect" will continue.
Is the main idea to Barbosa use a hv discharge protector , to give a extra kick to circuit start work.
But is other ways to control this aspect.

Good luck to everyone.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G-ob1GY6dXs/default.jpg?v=54d36066

 

skribat

Quote from: Void on February 08, 2015, 09:25:10 AM
Hi skribat. Can you elaborate a bit on the 'magnetic pulse device' you are referring to?
Is it mentioned in any of the patents, and, if so, which ones? Or where is this described?
All the best...

hi Void .. as far as I recall it is in all of the patent and specs I read, right from the very first, it is a rotary magnet pulse generator, as far as I can see it serves the same purpose as the spark device in the Kapanadze generator, without this I assume it won't work, it seems to work as a wave generator .. and its frequency has to be tuned in to the system power surge I think.  if you look at some of the early posts here, perhaps around page 22 ? you will find things I posted which describes this but there is not a specification for it .. may be a little hush-hush .. could just be a simple hall effect trigger ..  skribat

Bob Smith

Quote from: skribat on February 08, 2015, 08:27:28 AM
hi Bob ..  many thanks for the translation .. your post also reminded me .. it seems that almost everyone working on replicating the captor for some reason ignores their use of the magnetic pulse device use in their system .. as with the Kapenadze system I suspect this is important .. or why would it be there.  skribat ..
Hi Skribat
Glad to help in a small way. My interest is in identifying the central principle(s) involved. As you say, there seems to be elements in common with TK's work, and I'm sure there are others.  The patent notes that this B&L technology can be used "to trap electrons from space" as well to "extract electrons from the earth." See page 33, first paragraph here:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter3.pdf

I believe this is basically what Moray was doing - starting with pulling a charge out of the earth, then later adapting his setup to use a kind of virtual ground. Bearing that in mind then, what is it that this system is actually doing?  Is it perhaps more in the nature of exciting the electrostatic environment and creating a kind of gradient of charge imbalance/separation which invites nature to supply charges to restore what the environment perceives as an imbalance?

In my mind, if we can figure out this principle and how to apply it in a variety of different modalities (solid state, mechanical and hybrid combinations), we can effectively blow open a door with huge possibilities - one that can't be closed.
Bob

Void

Quote from: skribat on February 08, 2015, 10:23:19 AM
hi Void .. as far as I recall it is in all of the patent and specs I read, right from the very first, it is a rotary magnet pulse generator, as far as I can see it serves the same purpose as the spark device in the Kapanadze generator, without this I assume it won't work, it seems to work as a wave generator .. and its frequency has to be tuned in to the system power surge I think.  if you look at some of the early posts here, perhaps around page 22 ? you will find things I posted which describes this but there is not a specification for it .. may be a little hush-hush .. could just be a simple hall effect trigger ..  skribat

Hi skribat. Hmm, Ok. I don't recall seeing anything about a rotary magnet pulse generator or any pulse component in the B&L patents,
but maybe I missed it, or I was understanding it as something else.
All the best...