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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: Void on April 09, 2015, 07:39:10 AM

Hi Pirate88179. I am sorry, but what you are saying is nonsense. I am sure at some level you may
actually believe such things, but it really is just nonsense.
All the best...

Well then, we can agree that we disagree.  I have attempted, many times, to point out that a device, such as the magic computer fan motor that runs itself, is not overunity but a hoax using some button cells and a reed switch and..what do I get for my politeness?  I am called a paid shill for big oil, etc., etc.  Then, they even call me a troll and a non-believer.

So, my point is, this cuts both ways.  After many times of this type of thing happening, I probably am not as nice as I could be the next time something like this comes up.  This gets especially frustrating to myself, and many others, when we see the same devices come up...again and again as if they were new and never debunked.  Now, mostly, I just let it go...let them build it and see it does not/can not work.

Overunity is impossible.  Free energy is possible.  The energy must come from somewhere.  We are stuck with the laws of nature and physics but, we can all work to find new sources of energy, and the most efficient ways possible to use existing sources of energy.  That is a good goal and why I am here.

Trolls do not teach anyone anything and I have learned a lot from the fellows here being called trolls and paid shills.

Anyway, I suppose we will continue to see this differently.

Thanks,

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Farmhand

Quote from: ramset on April 09, 2015, 08:08:14 PM
Yes it can be dangerous ,these men are trained professionals do not try
this at home in your spare time.

OSHA statistic for Jobsite injuries .
** more people are injured, maimed, blinded or even killed from the miss use of a common screw driver than  any other reported incident.

You two [Tinsel and Farmhand] throw lightning bolts around the kitchen
we don't hope you fry yourself ,or hope it gets caught on camera[Tinsel  :P]....

we know that you take precautions.. don't expect anything less from the other builders here.

It's not just the people that post that matter many people just read and do without posting, this is an open forum.

I'm fairly sure that when myself or others like Tinsel post about and show the details of potentially lethal devices we always warn of the danger and even warn each other of dangers that may go unnoticed.

I'll say again that bypassing the RCD as has been done in order to replicate the Barbosa and Leal device is very dangerous and illegal, at least in Australia it is. Doing that endangers everybody who uses electrical appliances at that address.

And similarly any high power medium voltage system ie, 120 to 240 volt system that is made to be "like the grid" as in ground connected and wires named neutral, phase and ground, should be made so that an RCD can be fitted to make it safe. It's not illegal to use an inverter without one but it should be in certain situations in my opinion. 

With a proper warning those not comfortable dealing with lethal powers most likely would give it a miss, but when people encourage others to replicate with no warnings, that's irresponsible to begin with.

..

Oh by the way I've shown myself being shocked by HF HV a few times, also at medium frequencies and medium voltages, I got video of myself getting accidentally shocked by an electric fence if you want to see that, but that isn't lethal unless one has some existing problem, I've shown HF arc burns on purpose.

It's all about recognizing what can likely kill you dead instantly and what has little chance of lasting injury.

.

DA1

Hello everyone
I'm a freshman from
Thailand

Then I saw a very interesting circuit.
I try to do it or not.



bringdownthezog

Quote from: ramset on April 09, 2015, 03:05:04 PM
And here is the Wizard from Oz [TinMan] and his new movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKC4fX3XOp4

for those who may not be familiar with David Bowlings charger, ...[has a thread here somewhere
and over at Aarons place] I want to say Turion[energetic handle]???? not certain at this moment
trying to finish a motor job and three other tasks ATM...

Mr.King
Ohh How I would Love to give that Tito a nice Big Squeeeeze .something like this >> :o <<
However.. we shall see...?

The busy with lights wizard is going to have a rigor mortis when he finds out thousands of people have already shown a load/no-load watt meter reading.

Note to self: May be too much for Mr.Wizard to understand this when he cannot make out between a captor and transformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8Ja58Oupw

allcanadian

@Farmhand
QuoteI'm fairly sure that when myself or others like Tinsel post about and show the details of potentially lethal devices we always warn of the danger and even warn each other of dangers that may go unnoticed.

I'll say again that bypassing the RCD as has been done in order to replicate the Barbosa and Leal device is very dangerous and illegal, at least in Australia it is. Doing that endangers everybody who uses electrical appliances at that address.


My thoughts are that danger is relative and there is always a price to be paid for progress... it is not free nor is it easy. What I find very dangerous and almost painful to watch is complacency and unjustified fear mongering because the fact remains that if your not making mistakes you are not learning nor are you making progress. You know I could debate almost anything with anyone on any level but sometimes their is pure genius in absolute simplicity. My friend had one such thought which had profound meaning for me early on when he said... God hates a coward. Which was in fact odd because he was in no way a religious person and yet there it was. If you are not willing to put yourself out there and accept the risks then you will never truly succeed at anything in my opinion.


Make no mistake that I have probably forgotten more than you will ever know in this field of technology and I have paid a very great price for it. It is not free, it is not easy nor is it safe or all that productive in many cases but it was always worth the risk so many might benefit from what I have learned.


So please spare me your over exaggerated explanation of the risks involved because I'm the person who operates the power plants which provides the energy for people like you. Yes, I'm the guy at the other end of that line running to your house and I understand every detail involved from start to finish. It puts a little different spin on the conversation doesn't it?.... when you converse with someone who knows what their talking about because that is their profession.


So I will tell you something which may actually save your life at some point which Nikola Tesla explained in his lectures. Keep one hand in your pocket and you know why and never touch any connection with your hands only pliers rated above the voltage you are working with. No offense but I make more hot connections in a month than most have done in their life, not a problem , not an issue, it is normal for me even if it isn't for you. It's about common sense and I consider every circuit in the same respect as a gun, I assume it's always loaded and treat it as such because assumptions kill people.


So I understand your point however unless people start putting there unjustified fears of the unknown aside were screwed... do you understand that my friend?. We must make progress and many will pay a great price for this progress while cowards sit back afraid of the risks involved. Me I'm not that kind of person, I know the risks and I have no problem with it because it was never about me it is about you and our children's future. So man up, grow a set of balls and getter done because if there is a god i'm pretty sure he/she/it does hate cowards.


AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.